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Chris S
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Posted: April 26 2009 at 02:31 |
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and that my friends is what makes prog tick.....diverse belief...LOL
Supertramp for me/////exceptionally progressive in every sense
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kenethlevine
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 21:07 |
sorry guys, I did not have the intention of dissing the choices, and I can see why they were included. I realize that most of my ideas were not inj the same league in terms of familiarity, but I just wanted to list them to show that there are groups that I feel handle the prog-pop blend better. Regarding Roxy music, you are right that their first 3 albums are proggy, in fact they are not really poppy at all. But even there, not my thing . Supertramp is very popular here but I just don't get it at all.
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Icarium
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 20:43 |
kenethlevine wrote:
I gotta say, I'm as much a fan of pop in my prog as anyone, but this is a poor selection. I can't happily vote for any of these groups, so I won't. ELO and Queen (more hard rock than prog in early albums) each had one or two albums that I would rate as good, and a mass of stuff I can't stand. The other groups don't even have that. I guess most of the groups I like that blend the two are more serious and proggy, like Alan Parsons or Moody Blues, or later works of Anyone's Daughter, and so many others - Saga, FM, Kaos Moon, 80s Mike Oldfield
| I definetly know this is not a complet list of all the bands that are blending pop with prog or prog with pop. as i wrote in my reason to only included those five is becouse i know them better and by that reason can judge ther qualification as progressive rock bands with pop influence or pop groups with prog elements. and these 5 bands are often mentiond as being quite similar but aslo have originality.
and Supertramp are actualy known for be quiet adept at blending prog with pop, they had a very interesting period Between 1970 - 1985 with som 100% progrock albums to i own there self titled debut from 1970 featuring Hodgson, Davies, Palmer-James (yes the King Crimson Lyracist) and a drummer i dont remember. 1974 Crime of the Century - some of the finest albums in the 70s were Supertramo found ther sound ther formula that lasted in 10 yers, a style that blended Jazz, acustic folk ballads, blues, symponic prog, pop and hardrock. en with some of the best production, were you can clarely hear all instruments and evrey note, and Brother were are you Bound with the 16:30 minuts self titled song with guests guraists Rythem guitar Scott Gorham from Thin Lizzy and David Gilmoure - Pink Floyd guitar solo.
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 20:23 |
kenethlevine wrote:
I gotta say, I'm as much a fan of pop in my prog as anyone, but this is a poor selection. I can't happily vote for any of these groups, so I won't. ELO and Queen (more hard rock than prog in early albums) each had one or two albums that I would rate as good, and a mass of stuff I can't stand. The other groups don't even have that. I guess most of the groups I like that blend the two are more serious and proggy, like Alan Parsons or Moody Blues, or later works of Anyone's Daughter, and so many others - Saga, FM, Kaos Moon, 80s Mike Oldfield
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A bit unfair on Roxy I feel given the solid prog credentials of their first three albums.
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kenethlevine
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 17:46 |
I gotta say, I'm as much a fan of pop in my prog as anyone, but this is a poor selection. I can't happily vote for any of these groups, so I won't. ELO and Queen (more hard rock than prog in early albums) each had one or two albums that I would rate as good, and a mass of stuff I can't stand. The other groups don't even have that. I guess most of the groups I like that blend the two are more serious and proggy, like Alan Parsons or Moody Blues, or later works of Anyone's Daughter, and so many others - Saga, FM, Kaos Moon, 80s Mike Oldfield
Edited by kenethlevine - April 25 2009 at 17:53
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cronholm
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 16:04 |
If you actually included Wishbone Ash I might have felt compelled to vote, as it is will abstain as the only band you've listed I like is Roxy, and then only their later, non-proggy albums.
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lucas
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 04:19 |
I voted for Queen, they influenced a host of rock bands. I also like very much Supertramp (up to Breakfast in America) and 10 CC and can see the connections between them. I never was fond of Roxy Music. Regarding ELO, I have to dig their discography to make an opinion.
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tszirmay
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 02:26 |
<<<<<<<<< NO CONTEST , please!
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TheLastBaron
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 02:25 |
Gotta go with Queen. Queen, Queen 2, Sheer heart attack are all amazing. Night at the Opera is amazing too, but Queen 2 is thier best in my mind. I find that album and thier early works really influential to prog, and metal. I also think thier early work is very under-rated in the mainstream press. I remember they only had one album on Rolling Stones top 500 albums of all time and it was Night at the Opera, love that album but I was pissed that Queen 2 wasn't on there. I think the whole band is very talented. Brian May is a great guitarist, very very under appreciated.
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rosenbach
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Posted: April 24 2009 at 22:03 |
Alitare wrote:
1 - Alan Parsons Project (sorry, my personal priorities preempted the poll's)2 - Supertramp3 - Queen4 - Roxy Music5 - ELODidn't rate 10cc, as I am not familiar with them.
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Agree with you, but in different order:
1. Queen, first band i loved and the first vynils i ever had
2. ELO: had all their albums when i was in high school and enjoyed them a lot
3. Alan Parson Project: great albums until Eye in the Sky, later no so good (maybe Amonia Avenue too?)
4. Roxy Music, first album i had was Avalon wich i loved but it took me a long time to know their first works, quite different
5. Supertramp, love their Paris album
Not familiar with 10CC
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DevilRy
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Posted: April 24 2009 at 21:06 |
On this list, Roxy Music are definitely my favorite. Of the criteria the OP laid out though, I'd have to say Split Enz are miles ahead of the rest.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: April 24 2009 at 19:07 |
My own personal favorite among the choices listed is ELO.
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crimhead
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Posted: April 24 2009 at 17:59 |
Supertramp,Queen,Roxy,10cc then ELO.
I have only seen Tramp,Queen and 10cc live though.
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Raff
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Posted: April 24 2009 at 16:00 |
Supertramp are by far my favourite among the bands listed, followed by Roxy Music. I have never been able to really get into Queen, though I recognise they are a great band in many respects, and ELO (who are one of Micky's fav bands) leave me somewhat cold. As for 10cc, I know them very little, but I've always wanted to get to know them more.
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claugroi
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Posted: April 24 2009 at 15:48 |
Supertramp. Art Rock full of Prog, in any song.
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: April 24 2009 at 14:48 |
ELO first album
Supertramp First album
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: April 24 2009 at 10:20 |
Although I voted for Roxy Music, I think on reflection that their influence is perhaps more palpable in the subsequent work of the Cure, Banshees, Joy Division et al
(I'm thinking of 'In Every Dream Home a Heartache' here y'all)
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The Doctor
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Posted: April 24 2009 at 05:37 |
As for me, Queen. They were the first rock band I really got into when I was around 11, and still love their music as much today as I did all those years ago. I'm also a big Roxy Music fan.
Never got into ELO or Supertramp. They're both ok, but that's it. Don't really know 10cc well enough to judge.
Edited by The Doctor - April 25 2009 at 05:58
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vuh
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Posted: April 24 2009 at 05:22 |
Roxy
Queen
ELO
Supertramp
I hate 10cc
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Kotro
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Posted: April 24 2009 at 05:03 |
Queen. Early material tops a lot of "100% prog" on PA.
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