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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: April 16 2004 at 11:29 |
I'm a huge Cure fan. Goth-pop, maybe? Like anything else, it has it's place and should be consumed in small quantities. So far, two of my daughters have gone through the GOTH phase. The music is good, some great, but the total immersion into the lifestyle is rather scary and clownish. Come on, would you hire someone with a black mohawk and fifty facial piercings to sell your products? Egad man, fall in the water and you'll sink.
Is goth prog. Hhhmm, very peripheral, at best. The instrumentation, mainly synths with church organ, swirling atmospherics? I don't know.
What's maani think?
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Jim Garten
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Joined: February 02 2004
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Posted: April 16 2004 at 11:17 |
Generally, Goth =
Black clothes, skinny musicians with (of course) black hair, playing doom laden music (although usually fairly well in the case of The Cure, Bauhaus, The Mission, Siouxie & The Banshees etc), whilst staring at their feet & growling into their microphones about the futility of existence......
All in all, a fun evening out......
cowers in corner waiting for the flak..........
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will
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Joined: March 13 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: April 16 2004 at 11:07 |
i think the label goth is a bit stupid, what makes someone or a band gothic?? Im not sure.
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Long live progression.
Will
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Stormcrow
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Posted: April 15 2004 at 20:19 |
Eh... since I've never wanted to get my eyebrow pierced or get a set of vampire fangs made and I've always associated goth music with the "Goths" who paint their face white, dye their hair orange and wear all black clothes, I've always avoided Goth music like it's the plague.
Have I really been missing anything?
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The Prognaut
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Joined: April 14 2004
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Posted: April 15 2004 at 19:44 |
I'd dare to say that "L'ame Immortelle" takes along a lil smidge of prog essence too! Lacrimosa's "Elodia" and "Fassade" are seriously related to a prog mixture yet dark, but I definetely think both prog and gothic find themselves in the same path
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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arqwave
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Joined: March 21 2004
Location: Mexico
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Posted: April 15 2004 at 14:36 |
hum... beleive me, gothic is a very seriuos style of music, that goes from the cure to lacrimosa, even Depeche Mode has a bit of goth, the best groups from that style are Cristian Death and bauhaus, and mock my words, those gropus aren't prog, maybe they are close to the style but nothing concrete, any style might has a "taste of prog" but that doesn´t mean it's prog.
peace
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diddy
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Joined: March 02 2004
Location: Germany
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Posted: April 14 2004 at 15:24 |
Opeth has NOTHING to do with Gothic
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If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear...
George Orwell
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progchain
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Posted: April 14 2004 at 14:50 |
OPETH!
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The Owl
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Joined: February 19 2004
Location: United States
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Posted: April 14 2004 at 14:35 |
Marcelo wrote:
There are many gothic bands closer to metal than prog (Tristania, i.e.), but some gothic bands are esentially prog: Lacrimosa, Devil Doll (gothic?) or Sopor Aeternus among others. I love that dark, sad and tetric kind of music... Anybody else? |
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People are puzzled why I don't dig the Stones, well, I listened to the Stones, I tried, and I tried, and I tried, and--I Can't Get No Satisfaction!
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Marcelo
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Joined: February 15 2004
Location: Argentina
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Posted: April 14 2004 at 14:19 |
[QUOTE=philippe]
"Some gothic bands are ESSENTIALLY prog" ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Just a ridiculous label to sell more...
It dosen't mean that I simply hate Gothic...I enjoy sometimes listening to stuffs as Sisters of Mercy (A kind of dark new age gothic band from the 80s), however I'm not at all familiar with the metal gothic scene...
Gothic isn't essential to prog music, I tried to say that some gothic bands have many prog elements to be considerated into prog music
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philippe
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Posted: April 14 2004 at 13:07 |
"Some gothic bands are ESSENTIALLY prog" ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Just a ridiculous label to sell more...
It dosen't mean that I simply hate Gothic...I enjoy sometimes listening to stuffs as Sisters of Mercy (A kind of dark new age gothic band from the 80s), however I'm not at all familiar with the metal gothic scene...
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Marcelo
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Joined: February 15 2004
Location: Argentina
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Posted: April 14 2004 at 12:58 |
There are many gothic bands closer to metal than prog (Tristania, i.e.), but some gothic bands are esentially prog: Lacrimosa, Devil Doll (gothic?) or Sopor Aeternus among others. I love that dark, sad and tetric kind of music... Anybody else?
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