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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2005 at 08:22

IMHO Gilmour has done good music, but the interesting elements in PINK FLOYD's music came from SYD BARRET (before he went to Jupiter) and ROGER WATERS (before he got too much piss in his head). As a person, I don't value him very much... Sorry if this hurt's somebody elses but Gilmour's feelings. It shouldn't.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2005 at 08:15
Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

I am not anti Dave Gilmour, just being realistic. Like I say, he's a good guitarist but isn't up there with the greats. Gilmour has a great ear for melody but lacks good technical ability. He cannot be compared to the Howe's, Fripp's, Satriani's & Vai's of this world.

The last two Floyd albums don't have one memorable track on them. This was the proof that without Waters there cannot be a Pink Floyd!

The truth of the matter is that most post 80's prog bands copy Gilmour's guitar sound because it isn't difficult to do!

no, people like rothery are very capable guitarists, they dont play like gilmour because its easy, its because its a great style...gilmour is a great guitarist, like forgotten son said, there really is too much gilmour bashing on this thread, really...im ashamed of you guys.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 14:49
Originally posted by ummagumma08 ummagumma08 wrote:

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Another interesting thing I've come across browsing through
the internet, is, that possibly the most
hated once-a-prog-musician by the members of this forum, the
great drummer Phil Collins actually liked prog, especially
Yes. Just look below (sorry if it is hard to read) 


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I doubt that would be his answers today This is
probably from around 1972-74.



Didn't he audition for Yes way way back in the day?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 14:23

Originally posted by Arteum Arteum wrote:

Ha ha ha!

At least he hates YES the most ;-) But, if seriously, I think David Gilmour does not hate any of these bands. He just made fun of the interviewer.  

I also considered it some kind of a joke when I read it..

Another interesting thing I've come across browsing through the internet, is, that possibly the most hated once-a-prog-musician by the members of this forum, the great drummer Phil Collins actually liked prog, especially Yes. Just look below (sorry if it is hard to read) 

I doubt that would be his answers today This is probably from around 1972-74.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 19:59

Ha ha ha!

At least he hates YES the most ;-) But, if seriously, I think David Gilmour does not hate any of these bands. He just made fun of the interviewer.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 19:40

I think they complemented eachother well as musicians, the albums that they worked on together (and under good terms) were their best albums... and the albums that either one took head role in were their weakest.

Not saying gilmour is as able as Steve Howe, but he is a good guitarist.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 18:44
Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

was the proof that without Waters there cannot be a Pink Floyd

The Division Bell contains what is probably my all-tim favorite song: Wearing the Inside Out.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 13:48

I am not anti Dave Gilmour, just being realistic. Like I say, he's a good guitarist but isn't up there with the greats. Gilmour has a great ear for melody but lacks good technical ability. He cannot be compared to the Howe's, Fripp's, Satriani's & Vai's of this world.

The last two Floyd albums don't have one memorable track on them. This was the proof that without Waters there cannot be a Pink Floyd!

The truth of the matter is that most post 80's prog bands copy Gilmour's guitar sound because it isn't difficult to do!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 13:40
Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

Originally posted by con safo con safo wrote:

Without gilmour waters would have been lost. Case in point; The Final Cut

Without Waters there is no Pink Floyd. Case in point; Momentary Lapse Of Reason & The Division Bell. Even the great Bob Ezrin coudn't save these two Gilmour solo albums from being very poor



I think Momentary Lapse and The Division Bell are miles better than The Wall and Final Cut. David Gilmour is a GREAT guitarist, end of debate IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 13:33
Originally posted by con safo con safo wrote:

Without gilmour waters would have been lost. Case in point; The Final Cut

Without Waters there is no Pink Floyd. Case in point; Momentary Lapse Of Reason & The Division Bell. Even the great Bob Ezrin coudn't save these two Gilmour solo albums from being very poor

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 12:41

Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

Gilmour is a good guitarist, not brilliant, not exceptional, just good. He can consider himself very lucky that he was in a band that had a genius called Roger Waters to carry him!!!!!

Without gilmour waters would have been lost. Case in point; The Final Cut

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 10:58
Gilmour is a good guitarist, not brilliant, not exceptional, just good. He can consider himself very lucky that he was in a band that had a genius called Roger Waters to carry him!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2005 at 07:13

Originally posted by hopelevre hopelevre wrote:

my post ahd nothign to do with the question asked of mr. gilmour and everything to do with his general attitudes not one in a specific instance. he is corrupted by self love and commercial greed.

Speculation and nasty speculation at that.

I have never met the guy and can only form an opinion from watching or reading interviews with him.I detect no "self-love" or to be more accurate arrogance and egotism,whatsoever.He seems perfectly level-headed and self-deprecating to me.

As for your view of the last two "Floyd" albums,you are of,course entitled to them.

For my part I think they are two of the best rock albums released over the last 20 yrs or so!Tongue




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2005 at 21:39

I bet if you asked most old prog musicians what was in their old record collection..there would'nt be much prog in there.

9 times out of 10 most musicians of the early era were Classical or Jazz trained/influenced,usually their preference in listerning too i guess.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2005 at 21:35

Originally posted by Vince Vince wrote:

On the back of the "Inside Pink Floyd" DVD, there is a quote from David Gilmour saying that Atom Heart Mother is a piece of crap... Hey Radioactive, I bet he would like your Atom Fart Mother sig

 

That's because Floyd hated the album...Shame cos i think it's one of their best early albums

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2005 at 09:56
Well put, end of discussion IMO:)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2005 at 09:29
david gilmour is an absolurte genius and a legend, he can say what he wants about any music he wants because Pink Floyd are quite simply the best band the world has ever seen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2005 at 09:23
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David Gilmour is none of those things.  And unless you've
met him and had a conversation with him, you're just basing
your assumption of an editor's idea of what David Gilmour
should sound like.  I've met David quite a few times, and he's
always been gracious and kind.  But after 35 years of
answering the same useless questions, I'm sure he probably
just starts to make things up for a little variety.  I've read several
interviews where he answers the same question in quite a few
different ways with no relation.  I'm sure he's just trying to keep
himself amused thru it all.


 

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I'm sure he has does make things up to amuse himself, yes. I
have interviewed David twice, though, and have to say he was
a disagreeable old cove on both occasions! :-) It really didn't
matter what the topic or question was, he clearly had no interest
in being there. One of these interviews was to plug his last solo
album, and I do recall thinking that if he couldn't be bothered to
push even this, why was he bothering at all. If I was a
millionaire rock star I wouldn't bother either, but then I wouldn't
bother to agree to press in the first place. Nevertheless, I'm sure
that with a glass of fine chablis in one hand and a nose full of
the other, David (never Dave!) would be a witty and charming
dinner party conversationalist.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2005 at 09:16
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:


I would suggest Gilmour and Fripp don't like being tarred
with the term 'progressive rock', because of 30 years of
negative press.



I've always presumed that musicians view their music rather
differently from how their audience do (rightly or wrongly). It's
like Phil Collins' protestations that he couldn't understand why
Genesis were pillored alongside Yes, ELP when punk came
along.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2005 at 08:43
my post ahd nothign to do with the question asked of mr. gilmour and everything to do with his general attitudes not one in a specific instance. he is corrupted by self love and commercial greed.
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