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Syzygy
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Posted: September 07 2008 at 08:14 |
Definitely prog - just listen to his performances on Relayer and GFTO. He's a tad more muscular than Bruford (on Sound Chaser he's playing possibly the first ever example of jazz metal) but his work on tracks like Turn of the Century or Awaken is as prog as drumming gets.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: September 07 2008 at 07:43 |
Great poll, Pablo, been thinking the same sort of thing for a while, myself, though I don't know too much of his work.
Personally, I'm veering towards a yes. Remembering the rather unusual work on The Ancient as well as his really directional work on The Gates Of Delirium. I agree that he's a bit more rock-focused than most of the 'prog' drummers I listen to, and he definitely comes from that direction, but he has done some pretty interesting and superb stuff in the prog arena.
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Phil
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Posted: September 07 2008 at 06:49 |
Intertsting poll - as you say there's no doubt he's an excellent drummer. His work on "Tales" struck me as a bit of a struggle to come to terms with the band; "Relayer" was just about the best drumm (and bass) perfomance on any album of any genre. Overall when I listen to White I do think he is more a hard rock drummer.
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Anderson III
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Posted: September 07 2008 at 03:36 |
I've actually always found similarities in White and Peart's style of drumming. Peart sounds somewhat more precise, but both are powerful and fast. And I disagree on the notion that White's playing is simple. When I think of Yes' music, one of the first words that come to mind is complex! When the music is so multilayered as it is, it's pretty much impossible for the drums to stay simple. I think White's a prog drummer.
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"Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 06 2008 at 23:28 |
Yorkie X wrote:
I like White more than Bruford & Collins .. his drum tuning and deep toms mean buisness he drives the beat home no sissy approach just a powerful direct at times complicated but most of the time backbone to the music, a bit like my all time favourite drummer Phil Ehart from Kansas ...
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I agree, I think White wins for tone (i.e. Drama), both Bruford and Collins also have a very nice sound but White was more powerful in the studio
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febus
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Posted: September 06 2008 at 23:24 |
SO i guess he can play everything.
If YES kept him on the payroll for how long now? 35 years !!, i assume he can play like a progger as well, sure he is more business than subtetlies, but i didn't cry of despair when he took over Bruford 
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Yorkie X
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Posted: September 06 2008 at 23:14 |
I like White more than Bruford & Collins .. his drum tuning and deep toms mean buisness he drives the beat home no sissy approach just a powerful direct at times complicated but most of the time backbone to the music, a bit like my all time favourite drummer Phil Ehart from Kansas ... He is Prog Rock no questions about it, which is why Yes hired him in the first place and that choice turned out to be a pretty good one
Edited by Yorkie X - September 07 2008 at 04:49
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008
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Posted: September 06 2008 at 23:07 |
tszirmay wrote:
White played with the Plastic Ono Band and a variety of other British rock outfits before he got the Yes gig. |
interesting info, thx, I should have searched a little more..
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tszirmay
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Posted: September 06 2008 at 23:03 |
White played with the Plastic Ono Band and a variety of other British rock outfits before he got the Yes gig.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: September 06 2008 at 23:00 |
Well the question for me was that if Alan White is really a Prog drummer, at least the style, ala Bruford, Collins, Peart, Bozzio, etc.
Listening to Tales gives a really bad impression of his playing, being very simple and dull. While in Relayer his playing is very powerful, but I would consider it a more Rock style playing rather than a Prog style as I imagine Bruford playing on Relayer, jazzy leanings, etc.
And well in the last Yes outputs, his playing is rather simple.
I don't want people to come and say: "Have you heard Yessongs?!" Of course I have, but the compositions were made with Bruford not with Alan..
BTW: This is not a poll to decide wheather(?) Alan is a good drummer or not, it's if his stlye of drumming is Prog or not.
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