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sleeper
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Posted: September 03 2008 at 14:06 |
~Rael~ wrote:
popeyethecat wrote:
Picking the right type of vocals for Metal is VERY difficult. Hair Metal vocals? Death Metal vocals? Black Metal vocals? As much as I LOVE Metal (and not just the Prog stuff) pretty much ALL the vocal styles are...awful. Or you could go the other way and have Nightwish-y vocals, but although they can be very good, I'm not a fan of that either. The music is so aggressive that it's very difficult to get it right. I'd love to be in a band, but I can't do anywere near any of those styles (being female and not a soprano...or Angela Gossow).
So here's the question, whose vocals do you LIKE? |
Well, Pain of Salvation is my favorite band, and Gildenlow is the most talented vocalist I know of. Even though Gildenlow's voice can get to that high falsetto, he can pull it off. I'm not into death metal vocals, but Opeth is the exception, especially since Akerfeldt's clean vocals are very good. I like a mixture of screaming and singing in my metal, and prefer singing over screaming. All screaming and no singing can wear my down. I love Colors by Between the Buried and Me, but I wish they would sing a bit more. I love Tool. |
Give maudlin of the Well a try, they strike a great balance between growls and clean IMO.
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Forsuna
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Posted: September 03 2008 at 14:03 |
If you are going to recommend Meshuggah i will recommend Mnemic. Similar styles, but Meshuggah > Mnemic of course =P
Still another great band if you like Meshuggah.
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debrewguy
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Posted: September 01 2008 at 21:26 |
Have you ever given a listen to RPI singers from some of those 70s groups ? Operatic influences abound ...
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~Rael~
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Posted: September 01 2008 at 15:40 |
popeyethecat wrote:
Picking the right type of vocals for Metal is VERY difficult. Hair Metal vocals? Death Metal vocals? Black Metal vocals? As much as I LOVE Metal (and not just the Prog stuff) pretty much ALL the vocal styles are...awful. Or you could go the other way and have Nightwish-y vocals, but although they can be very good, I'm not a fan of that either. The music is so aggressive that it's very difficult to get it right. I'd love to be in a band, but I can't do anywere near any of those styles (being female and not a soprano...or Angela Gossow).
So here's the question, whose vocals do you LIKE? |
Well, Pain of Salvation is my favorite band, and Gildenlow is the most talented vocalist I know of. Even though Gildenlow's voice can get to that high falsetto, he can pull it off. I'm not into death metal vocals, but Opeth is the exception, especially since Akerfeldt's clean vocals are very good. I like a mixture of screaming and singing in my metal, and prefer singing over screaming. All screaming and no singing can wear my down. I love Colors by Between the Buried and Me, but I wish they would sing a bit more. I love Tool.
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timesignature
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 15:51 |
ya, i dont like the high pitched 80's sound either. as for meshuga, that would be prog metal which really doesnt sound the same. between the buried and me, a life once lost, opeth. strictly in the prog rock section it is pretty much all 80's voice. i really like porcupine tree though. no high squeels there. Personally i love the alice in chains type vocals and wish a super technical, jazz theory prog rok band would come out with those type of vocals.
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hawkcwg
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 15:47 |
yeah that stuff is annoying.
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sleeper
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 06:26 |
^Not singing like Angela Gossow is definitely a good thing! There are a lot of these "hair metal" type singers in Prog Metal, many growlers just arent good at it (even Akerfeldt on those first two albums) and lets not get started on Black Metal vocals . But, there are some really strong, unique, powerfull and above all pleasent singers in any of the three metal sub genres here. The likes of Gildenlow, Toby Driver, Maynard James Keenan, Anneka van Giersbergan, Devin Townsend, Akerfeldt, Dameon Wilson, July Kiss, Simmone Simons, Niko Knappe and many others are all excellent.
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popeyethecat
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 06:02 |
Picking the right type of vocals for Metal is VERY difficult. Hair Metal vocals? Death Metal vocals? Black Metal vocals? As much as I LOVE Metal (and not just the Prog stuff) pretty much ALL the vocal styles are...awful. Or you could go the other way and have Nightwish-y vocals, but although they can be very good, I'm not a fan of that either. The music is so aggressive that it's very difficult to get it right. I'd love to be in a band, but I can't do anywere near any of those styles (being female and not a soprano...or Angela Gossow).
So here's the question, whose vocals do you LIKE?
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 03:28 |
Norbert wrote:
Rather Neurosis than Meshuggah, if you ask me. That music really doesn't sound like glam metal.
And I actually like most DT and SX albums, and Spiral Architect, too. |
Neurosis is so boring! If anything along those lines, he should listen to Isis or Cult of Luna. Just my opinion...I've always seen Neurosis as the guys who got the ball rolling, but not the perfectors, not to mention I don't find them too enjoyable either.
Actually, since this thread is about vocals, I would definitely recommend Cult of Luna over Isis and Neurosis. They have some of the strongest vocals in post-metal. I'd also look at *shels and The Pax Cecilia too.
Edited by Moatilliatta - August 30 2008 at 03:31
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~Rael~
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 18:20 |
I love Opeth. . . and I have never heard any 80s metal sounding lyrics. Unless there is on some of thier eralier stuff.
Pain of Salvation is my favorite band, but I'll check out those others. And I just listened to a track from Canvas Solaris on myspace. It is interesting, for sure.
And Meshuggah. I downloaded one of thier CDs, and couldn't get into it. Not enough meldoy, though the technacality is impressive.
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LeInsomniac
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 16:17 |
Nil Recurring wrote:
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I don't think so, but even so, it doesnt sound so bad as Rael is referring.
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Nil Recurring
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 12:35 |
Opeth
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keiser willhelm
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 11:34 |
actually anything from the tech/post/experimental genre is very removed from almost anything that fits the classical prog metal description. cant think of one band that has that 80's style of vocals.
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Norbert
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 10:12 |
Rather Neurosis than Meshuggah, if you ask me. That music really doesn't sound like glam metal.
And I actually like most DT and SX albums, and Spiral Architect, too.
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b_olariu
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 07:06 |
Most of the prog metal bands are influence by the '80's metal - exactly hard and heavy and here and there some trash and powermetal. So why is not so obvious that the vocals, the manner of interpretation is took from that era. While symphonic prog bands are more influenced by the '70's prog, that why on some symphonic bands from today you may never found vocal parts like on Fates Warning for example, because they are influence by a diffrent kind of music and manner of interpretation. Always prog metal from today will be influenced by '80's metal, like symphonic or eclectic by the '70's, each genre with thier influence.
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 05:33 |
Devin Townsend doesn't sound like a glam rocker, thankfully...
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Plankowner
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 01:09 |
rael, check out the Tech Extreme genre on here... no glam there.
With Progressive Metal you really should listen to clips cause you never know what you're going to get. In the Progressive Metal genre try:
Adaigo
Beyond Twilight
Division By Zero
Heaven's Cry
Indukti
Jon Olivia's Pain
Linear Sphere
Nightingale
Osada Vida
Pain of Salvation
Redemption
Riverside
Savatage
Shaolin Death Squad
Superstring Theory
Wastefall
Zero Hour
..some not so glam vocals, threw in a few instrumental bands as well. You ever check out Canvas Solaris?
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~Rael~
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 01:04 |
Don't get me wrong Yorkie X, he is a very talented singer, and I need to really listen to the CD a few times.
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