Exciting New 1970-1975 Genesis Box Set!

chopper wrote: It'll be interesting to hear what the earlier albums sound like. I have heard a new remaster of Cinema Show and it sounds pretty good. I already have a remaster of TLLDOB though, this would be my third copy.

To clear up a few things: this sequence of reissues features REMIXES of the albums, not simply remasters. The members of Genesis and engineer Nick Davis went back to the original master tapes and remixed the tracks to take advantage of modern technologies.

Once these are released the old '90s so-called Definitive Remasters will cease to exist as these new mixes will supercede them. Thus these are effectively 'different' albums.

How much different the first bunch of albums will be remains to be seen. With the later albums, all recorded on 16 track or more, it was a relatively simple task to revisit the tracks. Not so with the 1970-75 set as these were recorded on sometimes 8-track recorders with the tracks 'bounced down' to create more space on the multi-track to give more tracks. Therefore you might get a guitar and a synth line recorded on two seprarate track and then re-recorded onto a third, freeing up the first two to be wiped and used for new tracks. In this way you cannot revisit individual tracks and clean them up or reEQ them because you get what you get. Apparently it was a tricky process with the 70-75 set.

Also someone else was enquiring why the DVD discs timing are the same as the CD. This is because the new sets come (wonderfully) in a variety of formats. The CD also carried an SACD layer and the DVD is a DVD Audio disc that also carries the bonus DVD Video material. Nice to see Genesis supporting audiophile formats (even if they are now largely obsolete). If you do have a home DVD player, some allow you play DVD-A or SACD discs. Give it a whjirl through your amp, the res is higher and should provide more detail, air and space than standard rubbish Red Book CD.

Me, I can't wait for these discs. The 76-82 set sounds awesome.


Edited by arcer - August 26 2008 at 14:17

Edited by erik neuteboom - August 24 2008 at 06:42

genesisfn wrote: Awsome! Why is SECONDS Out excluded? The Hi Rez mixing & mastering would increase the Dynamic Range & make this gem a sonic masterpiece.

I agree that Seconds Out should also be included in one of these box sets... but not this one. Seconds Out is a release from 1977 (recorded on the Wind & Wuthering Tour without Gabriel), so if it had been included in a box, it would have been 1976-1982 (the first one released, I believe).

This box set could have benefited from a remixed Genesis Live (from 1973). Maybe they could have even added in some "lost" recordings from the same show, especially "Supper's Ready"!

Who knows though, maybe the live albums will get the box set treatments as separate/independent releases.... maybe even a (mini) box of just live stuff?!

In my memory there is no complete The Lamb video footage, perhaps Genesis uses the material of the Epping Forest DVD Group, they released a DVD featuring lots of rare 8 and 16 mm footage (from good to poor quality), all is perfectly blended with the music, incredible work

me neither....

nope, these are the same audio tracks but in a different form, the first disk is always a SACD & the second a DVD so I suppose the mastering is different & the visual material is an extra on the DVD, normally a band interview with comments about the record, plus when existing concerts or/and Video clips. My favourite ones so far are the Trick Of The tail concert and the Tour documentary on ATTWT. I am quite curious to see the new bonus material.

Edited by Alucard - August 22 2008 at 02:35

 Is the info on the Genesis box sets correct? The info on wikippedia is different. It states that the box set is due in October.  Also, their website does not have this info.  Why will the CDs be released by themselves @ a later date? That did not happen with the other box sets.

I'm pretty sure there is more footage than mentioned on this post

check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_1970-1975
On this track listing there is more footage listed

they should have put in  a Gabriel-Rael-Action-Man with a slippermen costume, the Lamias and a small plastic box..... maybe for the 2012 re-re-re-rerelease 

Oh boy,