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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2008 at 13:52
Originally posted by darqDean darqDean wrote:

Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:


so, was Scarsick defiantly The perfect element  part 2 then?

my friend said it was, but he aint  the biggest fan, and hasnt known  them too long, however he said he read it in a interview with daniel?
Yep - it says so on the CD tray-liner.
 
This is really no Godfather II....Musically it may well be one of the awful sequels ever...Even though I have to say, TPE P1 was never perfect for me... I liked the first half of the record and then it becomes kind of boring... The only true maginificent album by POS is REMEDY LANE and BE as a concept+music... 12:5 is a magnificent unplugged live album...Entropia and One Hour are OK....
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Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:


so, was Scarsick defiantly The perfect element  part 2 then?

my friend said it was, but he aint  the biggest fan, and hasnt known  them too long, however he said he read it in a interview with daniel?
Yep - it says so on the CD tray-liner.
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so, was Scarsick defiantly The perfect element  part 2 then?

my friend said it was, but he aint  the biggest fan, and hasnt known  them too long, however he said he read it in a interview with daniel?
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I'm in the same boat, Kevin.  I've not listened to a single PoS song or album since hearing Scarsick.  I was that disappointed.

I've never heard BE or 12:3 either.

Remedy Lane is the best album, except for the dreadful last track.  Entropia my favourite (but not necessarily their best), as it's the one I've played the most and all tracks are good to excellent.  There's a few moments of almost laughable vocals performances from Daniel, but apart from that, I love that album.

One Hour I've only heard the once, I think.  I did like it and I didn't dislike any of the songs on it.

The less said about Scarsick the better, to be fair.  It was awful.
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Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I have listned to POS MUCH less after hearing Scarsick. I think that says it all. Anyone else in the same boat?


Actually, I've been listening to their other albums much much more to help wash the horrid taste out of my mouth. Entropia did the trick all by itself actually, and a little Remedy Lane reprise never hurts!

Speaking of Remedy Lane, that was the first Pain of Salvation I ever heard. It was practically a blind buy, but from the very first song, I knew I had something good. The concept is rock-solid, and it's the same with the music. I especially enjoy the vocal layering as well.
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I just haven't listened to them in a while
though Scarsick really didn't alter the rotation schedule
I have like periods of listening to a band
then ones where I don't


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Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

^ Me.

I was so excited for scarsick and absolutely crushed when it came out.
 
I still have Remedy lane as one of my top 10 albums... but the band itself lost a lot of ground with me.. I always forget to mention it now when I list my favorite bands... and it is one of them, but that last album... really...Dead
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Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I have listned to POS MUCH less after hearing Scarsick. I think that says it all. Anyone else in the same boat?


Threw Remedy Lane in the car's player today. Still sounds good, but I don't listen to too much POS these days.

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^ Me.

I was so excited for scarsick and absolutely crushed when it came out.
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I have listned to POS MUCH less after hearing Scarsick. I think that says it all. Anyone else in the same boat?

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Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

 What happened to this thread during my weekend absence!?AngryWink
 Now it almost deserves to be closed, what is rather unfair to the topic starter who started it among the  prog music appreciations.
 
Well, it has returned to music.
 
When an album sucks so much, and the lyrics are so imflamatory, what else can be expected...
 
I still hope that Daniel will return to form in the next one...
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You know, everything is under the bridge and apologies have been expressed. It was a lapse in judgment on my part.

As much as I continue to disagree with certain views, I'm just going to stay away from the topic in the future...and I'm sure there will be more.
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 What happened to this thread during my weekend absence!?AngryWink
 Now it almost deserves to be closed, what is rather unfair to the topic starter who started it among the  prog music appreciations.
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Points: 11979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2008 at 06:51
Final chance for this thread.
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I love them.

yea, not much of a great point...but I think they are an amazing band.
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Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

Alright! So there is some hope! I still have some reservations, but it's looking up.
 
Just pray that Little Daniel doesn't get indigested with some Snickers or an apple pie so that he goes back to "Scarsick 2"
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Alright! So there is some hope! I still have some reservations, but it's looking up.
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Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

I really hope the next Pain of Salvation is a huge comeback. Hopefully the rest of the TPE story from "her" point of view will be softer, nicer, not nearly as sarcastic or filthy as the "him" side.


If what Daniel has said about it before (it was supposed to become Part II but then got
delayed and became Part III of TPE), it's going to be quite orchestral. The original plan
was to feature a bigger orchestra on TPEII than was used on the BE album, but since
they obviously changed their plans and did Scarsick first, who knows what else changed...
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oh, well thats disappointing.
The DVD is really good though. i liked it a lot. it always adds a different feel to see a band play live. Some of daniels theatrics were a bit over the top but hey Big%20smile thats part of the show.
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Points: 17309 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2008 at 18:41
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

God, I really need to hear Scarsick.  Hard for me to believe it could suck so much after seeing the "Be" show.  Cry
 
I still don't understand how one can go from "Be" to "Scarsick"... it's like Daniel was so exhausted after writing such an intreresting concept that he suddenly became an angry teenager again...


The lyrics are one thing.  But for the music to get markedly worse is a sad thing....

@KW, No, I didn't see them live....I was just talking about the BE dvd. 
...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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