Tool: Penning New Album!!

I would like Adam Jones to change it up with maybe a different tuning and key though, 3 albums worth is enough

try C tuning
or get a 9 string

heyitsthatguy wrote: holy f**k its in drop d whoop it must be the same exact thing

I just like how he declares a band beyond the point of salvation because they released ONE album he did not like. He keeps talking about their slow decline, but they didn't do s**t for 5 years. I mean, it's nice to know that a band has to be genius 100% of the time to earn his approval. "What?! This album doesn't match up to the rest? F**k em, they are beyond hope!"

I will say that some of the songs on 10,000 Days use motifs and even riffs from Lateralus and Aenema, but they are by no means the same songs. Oh, and Maynard has no range anymore? Be honest, you're just trying to start something now. Maynard's vocals on this were some of the best in his career (The Pot, Right in Two, Vicarious, Wings for Marie).

holy plorp its in drop d whoop it must be the same exact thing

Edited by heyitsthatguy - February 14 2008 at 21:56

No,Vicarious does not sound like Schism

1800iareyay wrote: CaincelaOreinim wrote: Hmmm....these guys have a lot of work to do to redeem themselves I think...which I personally don't see happening. How so? Tool sacrificed nothing, yet their last album was the most commercially appealing. Not that Tool have ever really been underground, despite their successful attempts to avoid the fame lifestyle. 10,000 Days was no weaker than their established classics. Now, if you don't like them, that's fine, but to say they need redemption is silly.

Well, you asked for it...

Been a fan of their's for years...and still mildly to hardly interested.  However I thought 10,000 Days was for the most part a rehashing of Lateralus...for a band that consistently claims they're continuing to explore/experiment/broaden their horizons they seemed to be doing nothing of the such.  They rested on their laurels; I saw Lateralus as a kind of watershed to their sound - their next a make or break affair.  The title track's lyrics themselves seemed to solidify this notion of 'we're going to continue to push the envelope, be around for awhile, work hard, and explore where no one's gone before' therefore ushering in some pretty interesting bits in the closing track Resolution (what I refer to collectively as Dis-Ref-Trad).   Then they just rehashed past and present.

Aside from the 'winners' in my mind from 10,000 (Jambi, 10KD, Rosetta, and Intension) you can't tell me even in those selected 'winning' songs that they don't mime Lateralus' sound; you can't tell me: Vicarious doesn't sound like Schism, that the synth guitar effects in Rosetta and 10K aren't the same tone found in Reflection, that Rosetta doesn't have guitar lines similar to Third Eye, that The Pot isn't their staple 'angry' song a la Ticks & Leeches/Hooker, that Right In Two is just a tabla-centric Push*t makeover and an excuse to play in 11. 

How many more metal songs in drop D harmonic/minor + odd time can one take?  Also there's a formula they seem to be following too, you can't tell me every Tool song has a sort of climatic/cathartic release section designed to elevate the listener.  The problem I think is that Jones and Chancellor need to step it up and not rely solely on Carey to float their band, (Maynard's just a singer, with an identifiable/effusive/idiosyncratic voice but hardly any range left these days saturating his voice in compression and this robotic warble; listen to Undertow/Aenima and you'll hear him actually trying to push himself...and don't get me started on how his lyrics have slipped - vampires, zombies, monkeys, thick girls - unrelated Puscifer reference but still! -...); Chancellor IMO needs to stop relying on effect pedals, but who the hell am I really to tell him...his playing is fine, it's just he sounds so laden and watered-down.  I just think Jones and Chancellor really need to expand their horizons whether that's in theory/style/whatever BIG TIME.  But here's the thing, they wont because they have a winning formula/it works, why fix it?  

And I could go on and on about how drastically boring their live shows have become since Lateralus' tour...with projections that seem culled from Window 's Media Player, 'improvisations' that seem tacked on under this notion to flat out "rock" and be "balls to the wall" rather than establish an atmosphere and space (see what they did to Schism) or a seamless show, a new fanbase who doesn't listen; intent to scream along like at a DMB concert (which, if you're unfamiliar, is the last place on Earth you want to be), a greatest hits I-could-stay-at-home-and-have-pretty-much-the-same-experience set-list, mechanical/no energy playing with the band looking like they wont want to be there, f**king Alex Grey, who like them so to speak, paints the same thing over and over...can you tell yet that I've REALLY fallen off their bandwagon?

And that is why I'm not holding my breath nor am I really big on them much anymore...I'd like to be pleasantly surprised though! 

1800iareyay wrote: CaincelaOreinim wrote: Hmmm....these guys have a lot of work to do to redeem themselves I think...which I personally don't see happening. How so? Tool sacrificed nothing, yet their last album was the most commercially appealing. Not that Tool have ever really been underground, despite their successful attempts to avoid the fame lifestyle. 10,000 Days was no weaker than their established classics. Now, if you don't like them, that's fine, but to say they need redemption is silly.

Agreed...I think Tool's 10,000 Days contained some of their most personal and emotional music to date.  I thought it was a stellar release.

It is kind of good to know it will not take 5 years for a new Lp. I hope this news is true....

Hmmm....these guys have a lot of work to do to redeem themselves I think...which I personally don't see happening.

i read somewhere that Danny Carey said they are looking to start writing sooner rather than later, just beacuse they are older now i guess.

fandango wrote: GoldenSpiral wrote: hmm.... it's not april 1st yet...   Still, I don't believe Tool rumors until I see the result.     such cynicism in one so young, Golden Spaniel...   it came, courtesy of Blabbermouth...though I agree we might still have to wait for some while....