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jimmy_row ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 11 2007 Location: Hibernation Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
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^it looks like both parties are in danger of that, moreso the GOP...they can't even come close to a consensus on who to elect - the crazy talk-radio ("ultra-conservative) wing can't stand John McCain and are really falling apart while the more level-minded moderates like McCain and are drifting away from the divisive stance of the others. Most would agree that it's time for a "new order" of conservatives after what they've done since the Regan years...and I wouldn't mind seeing a strong libertarian and Green party as well as an actual liberal party for once.
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GoldenSpiral ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3839 |
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What the US really needs right now is the rise of a strong 3rd party. The Democrats are on the verge of self-destruction, and it's not unheard of for a party to just one day disintegrate (anyone remember the Federalists? or the Whigs?). If that happens the republicans will be left in control for too long before another party can be formed to challenge their power.
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jimmy_row ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 11 2007 Location: Hibernation Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
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Signature Writers Guild on strike
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Electronic voting is just fine by me provided there's a paper trail to back it up. It is true that you can have too many political parties, but the lack of viable alternatives to the two in the US has not been a good thing for us.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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LinusW ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 27 2007 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 10665 |
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From an outsiders point of view, agreed. Seven parties in the Swedish parliament as of now, and with US being huge, it seems strange with only two parties which have to see to the needs and demands of so many different interests. Perhaps a more representative form of government ? It's so hard to understand US politics, especially since the "deepest insights" for many Europeans come from watching the "The West Wing"! ![]() |
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el böthy ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
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I must tell you, seeing it from Argentina, a country with so many political partys as notes in a Petrucci solo, it´s quite odd to see USA has only two
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Atkingani ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
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Ok, it happens... but considering that here we have 3 or 4 Communist Parties that are always yelling "Foul" and they ahd been silent it's because the level of "blackboxvoting" should be lesser now then when we used common paper ballots.
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Massive fraud. http://blackboxvoting.org |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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That's exactly what they're counting on... ![]() |
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Failcore ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 27 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4625 |
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For the most part I think your being paranoid, although I'm sure major industry tries to manipulate both parties to a degree. However, I don't think there's some X-Filesesque Syndicate at the top controlling it all. |
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Failcore ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 27 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4625 |
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Yes they imply points, but then they usually intentionally derail. I think they are in some ways making a point about shows that try to make points. Hence my statement "the point of the the show is to be pointless."
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Gamemako ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 31 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1184 |
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The point is usually implied. In Gee Whiz, they lampoon religiosity (comparing it with schizophrenia, noted by the fellow jumping off the billboard), critique censorship and political correctness ("Gee, I'm sure glad that wasn't blood!"), et cetera. They typically do make points, but it can sometimes get lost in the rapid-fire slapstick so common in the show. |
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Hail Eris!
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jimmy_row ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 11 2007 Location: Hibernation Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
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"I'll show you politics in America right here: 'I believe the puppet on the right shares my beliefs....' 'Well, I believe the puppet on the left is more to my liking.' Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding up both puppets! 'Go back to bed, America, your government is in control!! Here's Love Connection, watch this and get fat and stupid. By the way, keep drinking beer!!'"
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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As a fan of the show I am absolutely certain your life will be better if you avoid the show at all costs. My name is shake-zula, the mind coola... Edited by Slartibartfast - February 02 2008 at 12:52 |
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Atkingani ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
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One of the best ways to have more parties could be the adoption of the 2nd shift IMHO. All parties may have candidates in the 1st shift and it's good to spread their messages.
In our presidential elections in 1990, the Social-Democrats ended the 1st shift in the 4th place but they sold their message (btw I didn't buy it) and won in 1994 and 1998 (with no need of a 2nd shift since their candidate got more than 50% in the first round).
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Philéas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 14 2006 Status: Offline Points: 6419 |
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The US needs more large parties, I think. Or no parties at all.
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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with only one party the USA would soon cease to be a democracy. for a democracy you need to have a choice. so yes, both parties are needed. the political system of the USA is in need of some maintenance though. the Democrats and the Republicans are very much alike, so there is not really much of a choice. it is the choice between Coca-Cola and Pepsi; but some people like to drink apple juice instead |
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![]() A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21483 |
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^ that's good to hear because I haven't seen a single episode.
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Failcore ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 27 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4625 |
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Aqua Teen always stops short of actually make a point. In fact the point of the show is to be pointless.
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Sometimes referencing a South Park episode is all you ever need to say about some topics. ![]() Just don't start making references to Aqua Teen Hunger Force episodes. Edited by Slartibartfast - February 02 2008 at 06:31 |
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