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Points: 1014 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2007 at 12:38
but for some reason, I could successfully compose only on days I was totally unprepared and not intending to do any composing. Even on days I felt like crap, for some reason, I would just sit and play to relax and then an idea came floating by as I played...

funny...i'm the same way.  after staying away for days and days, i go to into my recording studio and start creating some interesting melody without any planning...Serendipity Wink

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Points: 2747 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2007 at 12:28
Utah Man,.
something is wrong with my Comp,.
But I'll check it, and will let you know

love your avatar, that album cover rule,
better than Roger Dean,..
(Octopus-Gentle Giant {being specific incase you change it later} )


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Originally posted by Utah Man Utah Man wrote:

Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Song 3 - starting grandiose (can be made into very majestic or pompous, depending on how you edit or instrument it). Then that switch to the guitar is surprising sounding a bit cheaky (speeling) and then the Mellotron(?) joining in giving it a whole different character is cool. This could be a start of a great track, I sensed some musical ideas that can be further developed and even added. I like it! Make it longer, add to it more, I think.
 

Thanks again for these critical comments.
Since i do not have an official producer, i need you and others here on the forum to bounce ideas off of.  my children & wife do not provide me with enough musical ideas LOL

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I used to play the Organ and compose small and short pieces of my own and I never figured it out, but for some reason, I could successfully compose only on days I was totally unprepared and not intending to do any composing. Even on days I felt like crap, for some reason, I would just sit and play to relax and then an idea came floating by as I played...
 
 


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Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Song 3 - starting grandiose (can be made into very majestic or pompous, depending on how you edit or instrument it). Then that switch to the guitar is surprising sounding a bit cheaky (speeling) and then the Mellotron(?) joining in giving it a whole different character is cool. This could be a start of a great track, I sensed some musical ideas that can be further developed and even added. I like it! Make it longer, add to it more, I think.
 

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Since i do not have an official producer, i need you and others here on the forum to bounce ideas off of.  my children & wife do not provide me with enough musical ideas LOL

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I personally love the use of sound effects and also unconoventional music making instruments.
You could develop the songs' motifs first and then add to them whatever "ornaments" you want (that is if you wish to make a specific melody/idea-lead track or a more abstract/amorphic non-structured one). It depends on what you find most comfortable and naturally coming to you.
But in the end, I think effects and other adds, can be great addition to the music (and can even be the center of a piece).
 
 
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The Music Academy - nice spacey start, relaxing and beautiful. But I think it goes on for too long with the guitar solo, it's for me, getting a bit lost and the switch to that other part could come sooner or maybe add there more instrumentation in that intro alongside or after the guitar solo (leave the solo but cut it shorter). I was expecting a sort of speeding up at the end of that part and the switch lead to a nice part, but I feel as if there is much potential unfulfilled here. You can certainly develop it to what way you in that.
 

Thank You for this insight.
Should i just forget about all the sound effects..the footsteps & doors closing and just develope the individual songs as separate songs ?

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Song 3 - starting grandiose (can be made into very majestic or pompous, depending on how you edit or instrument it). Then that switch to the guitar is surprising sounding a bit cheaky (speeling) and then the Mellotron(?) joining in giving it a whole different character is cool. This could be a start of a great track, I sensed some musical ideas that can be further developed and even added. I like it! Make it longer, add to it more, I think.
 
 
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The Music Academy - nice spacey start, relaxing and beautiful. But I think it goes on for too long with the guitar solo, it's for me, getting a bit lost and the switch to that other part could come sooner or maybe add there more instrumentation in that intro alongside or after the guitar solo (leave the solo but cut it shorter). I was expecting a sort of speeding up at the end of that part and the switch lead to a nice part, but I feel as if there is much potential unfulfilled here. You can certainly develop it to what way you in that.
 
 
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on "Song 1" what do you think of the explosion at the 1:29 time mark .  Is it a stupid idea or leave it ?

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I think it's fine the way it is, a nice passage to another part. You could change or improve the quality of the explosion sound itself, but I find the idea in itself to be good.
 
 
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on "Song 1" what do you think of the explosion at the 1:29 time mark .  Is it a stupid idea or leave it ?

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I liked what I heard. I liked the melodies, the execution, the sound and atmosphere (well conveyed), tha variety of sounds you introduce with the different instruments.
I think percussions will greatly add to it when you can do it, although to me it sounded great as it is now.
The first track reminded me a bit of the Beatles and some other bands which right now I can't really put my finger on...
 
Is your other music in the same spirit and pace? I'd love to hear more energetic music that you have as well.
 
Possible track names (solely based on the first images that came to my mind while listening):
First track - In The Open; Leaving The City; Released
Second track - Now that we're apart....
 
Good luck with your music and I'd love to hear more.
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Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by Utah Man Utah Man wrote:


a couple of my latest tunes.
http://signalmusic.net/
let me know if you cannot hear them or if they fail to load successfully.

1. these particular ones are not in final production, but i wanted to get some input from you guys anyway.

2. as you can see, these are not titled yet...if you've got any ideas...well Big%20smile

3. "song 1" is about 7:44 and has 4 parts so hopefully you have a fast connection.
"song 2" is in 3/4 time is a gentle number with lots of mellotron.

hope you like them.  Wink


The first  two links aren't working, but the Q ones are fine.

As for the unfinished ideas, they're great! Exactly what I'm looking for in prog. Actually, they're somewhat similar to my  way of  thinking.

Great Mellotron + Classical Guitar!

Even the awful midi piano sounds good because of the melody!

Keep it up!!

Any name of the project? Posting in some other section?


thank you very much for these comments + input.  Wink
no, i don't have permanent names for these tunes yet...
bad links are fixed.

i'll see what i can do with the MIDI piano LOL



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Originally posted by Utah Man Utah Man wrote:


a couple of my latest tunes.
http://signalmusic.net/
let me know if you cannot hear them or if they fail to load successfully.

1. these particular ones are not in final production, but i wanted to get some input from you guys anyway.

2. as you can see, these are not titled yet...if you've got any ideas...well Big%20smile

3. "song 1" is about 7:44 and has 4 parts so hopefully you have a fast connection.
"song 2" is in 3/4 time is a gentle number with lots of mellotron.

hope you like them.  Wink


The first  two links aren't working, but the Q ones are fine.

As for the unfinished ideas, they're great! Exactly what I'm looking for in prog. Actually, they're somewhat similar to my  way of  thinking.

Great Mellotron + Classical Guitar!

Even the awful midi piano sounds good because of the melody!

Keep it up!!

Any name of the project? Posting in some other section?
Percussion, sir!
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a couple of my latest tunes.
http://signalmusic.net/
let me know if you cannot hear them or if they fail to load successfully.

1. these particular ones are not in final production, but i wanted to get some input from you guys anyway.

2. as you can see, these are not titled yet...if you've got any ideas...well Big%20smile

3. "song 1" is about 7:44 and has 4 parts so hopefully you have a fast connection.
"song 2" is in 3/4 time is a gentle number with lots of mellotron.

hope you like them.  Wink

p.s. - i am trying to create progressive music here, nothing else but that.  i think these have a "prog feel" to them.  let me know if you think otherwise.


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