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There'll be a plate on the rear of the organ to give the model number; post a picture if you can & I guarantee you'll get stacks of people telling you which model it is...


...one or two of them may be correct

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Hey Erik, I am currently negotiating with that church to buy their old Hammond. It is not a B3, but I am having a hard time determining what it is. The pictures in the Vail book are helpful but not exact enough.
I have heard that there are markings on the backside of some of the vacum tubes that give the model. There seem to be some markings that would indicate that it is an earlier B model.
Do you have any advice or info on this?
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Points: 10618 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2007 at 00:26
I forgot to add that almost all the organ on Ummagumma is Farfisa.
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Points: 10618 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 08:12
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

And on Echoes he combines the psychedelic sounding Farfisa organ with the more heavy sounding Hammond organ, especially in the middle part


You're right Erik - it's definitely a Hammond on Echoes (Meddle), but I'm sure it's a Farfisa on Atom Heart Mother. I tried to get a decent shot of the rear cover of 'Ummagumma' as that shows all their equipment, but looking at the grainy images there, I'm pretty sure that was a Farfisa too.


There might be some Farfisa on Atom Heart, but there is lots of Hammond too, especially on that long space blues jam. You can hear the percussion, a Farfisa doesn't have that.
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I now realise I'm guility of omitting MMW  from my article, wrt to resurgence/re-emergence of the Hammond in the early/mid 90's  - particularly Medeski's Hammond driven  soul jazz to relatively stripped down drum'n'bass rhythms
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Jim, it's also on the Pink Floyd bootleg DVD entitled Anthology, in Japan they played Atom Heart Mother without an orchestra and Rick Wright uses a Farfisa organ, really mindblowing sound and in my opinion superior to the studio version Thumbs%20Up
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Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

And on Echoes he combines the psychedelic sounding Farfisa organ with the more heavy sounding Hammond organ, especially in the middle part


You're right Erik - it's definitely a Hammond on Echoes (Meddle), but I'm sure it's a Farfisa on Atom Heart Mother. I tried to get a decent shot of the rear cover of 'Ummagumma' as that shows all their equipment, but looking at the grainy images there, I'm pretty sure that was a Farfisa too.

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Points: 7659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 15:09
 
                                                Thanks for your posts Thumbs%20Up
 
Mandrakeroot, I prefer Beggar's Opera their debut album, what a cascade of Hammond runs Approve !
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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

It is not a very good jam because both sound very tentative.
I always thought Devotion was supposed to be a Hendrix album, but McLaughlin had to fill in when Jimi passed away.
 
Oh I hadn't heard that before, but it could make sense. Although recording contracts much more rigorously tied an artist to one label, and rarely gave permission to record for other labels. Hence so many perfromers at Woodstock are missing from the two albums sets originally released in the early 70's, or Clapton/Harrison conjuring up nom de plumes to appear on each other's records but for different  labels. Hendrix seems to be tied hard to Polydor at the time - and still does. Elsewhere you read: it was John McLaughlin's reaction to seeing/hearing Hendrix playing with all stops out OR it was McLaughlin's (some what belated) psychedelic rock album....


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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

By the way regarding the VH1 special on Ladyland. I don't think it mentions Larry Young's appearence on that album, but I believe I read in a Young bio that he did play on one cut of that album. He and Hendrix were playing together some at that point.

 

There is Hendrix bootleg of Hendrix jamming with McLaughlin, recorded by (the now notorious) Alan Douglas - was Young also on that recordings? This would have been at the time of McLaughlin's Devotion album with Young and MIles, so there is a likelyhood of a Young/Hendrix connection....


I have some cassette copies of Young and Hendrix jamming that I recorded off of a radio show. It is not a very good jam because both sound very tentative.
I always thought Devotion was supposed to be a Hendrix album, but McLaughlin had to fill in when Jimi passed away.
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Another great Hammond/ Mellotron driven album that I recommended is this:

BEGGARS OPERA — Waters of Change

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4%20stars My review is produced usiing this release: Repertoire Records IMS 7029

Rating: 8/10

Great album this "Water Of Change", second album for Beggars Opera. Certainty dominated from Mellotron and Organ (made by Virginia Scott & Alan Park rispectively) but not for this fact Heavy Prog. In fact this album is extreme melodic. But not like The moody Blues or Barclay James Harvest because more Prog. Another distinctive point is that the Prog is present more like writing than arrangements. So a song like "Time Machine" is POP but extreme Symphonic Prog. Great also "I've No Idea" and "Silver Peacock". But "Festival" and "The Fox" are another gear because these songs are two Jam songs. Good also Martin Griffiths at the voice and the guitar of Ricky Gardiner.

At the limit of Proto Prog, this "Water Of Change" is another great album for all discographies. From Scotland surely a great band and a great album. Not only for 1971.

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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

By the way regarding the VH1 special on Ladyland. I don't think it mentions Larry Young's appearence on that album, but I believe I read in a Young bio that he did play on one cut of that album. He and Hendrix were playing together some at that point.
 
There is Hendrix bootleg of Hendrix jamming with McLaughlin, recorded by (the now notorious) Alan Douglas - was Young also on that recordings? This would have been at the time of McLaughlin's Devotion album with Young and MIles, so there is a likelyhood of a Young/Hendrix connection....
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Points: 7659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 21:53
This Wednesday we can enjoy the BBC docu entitled "Which one's Pink?", I hope to see some Animals live footage with Rick Wright on the Hammond organ Approve, I love his job on the David Gilmour Live DVD, very inspired and great interplay with David Thumbs%20Up

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By the way Dick, I have an obscure Who collection called Who's Zoo, there is an early song on there that is all Hammond rave up. I guess that is Al Kooper? It doesn't sound aything like the Who.
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Hey Erik and Diok, just buzzed through some Floyd very quickly but I would say Meddle and Atom Heart are mostly Hammond, but Erik is right, there is a bit of Farfisa towards the end of Echos. Dark Side is Hammond. Obscurred uses Hammond and Farfisa and More is mostly Farfisa except Cirrus Minor may be Hammond.
The earlier stuff is Farfisa and his later stuff is something I don't listen to much.
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Points: 7659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 10:24
 
Dick, about Rick Wright and the Hammond: on the album Animals you can hear some very powerful Hammond that matches perfectly with the agressive guitarwork and dark undertones of the album. And on Echoes he combines the psychedelic sounding Farfisa organ with the more heavy sounding Hammond organ, especially in the middle part.
In my opinion Rick Wright started to play the Hammond organ since Meddle, 1971.
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Easy Money: it turned out that many musicians tha tplayed on Electric Ladyland were not mentioned on the album sleeve, perhaps Larry Young is among them. Anyway, it's one of the Hammond players I want to check out Thumbs%20Up
 
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By the way regarding the VH1 special on Ladyland. I don't think it mentions Larry Young's appearence on that album, but I believe I read in a Young bio that he did play on one cut of that album. He and Hendrix were playing together some at that point.
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Hi Dick, Just coming off the top of my head I would say the song "One of these days" uses a Hammond as well as much of Atom Heart and Meddle. Let me spin some albums and I'll get back to you.

Of course on the earlier albums he is playing a Farfisa.
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Digging out Wynder K Frogg aka Blue Weaver aka Mick Weaver playing some soulful Hammond backing Taj Mahal for next Thursday's radio show. Anybody recently checked out Al Kooper's Hammond which in prominent throughout  the Who's Rael 1 (ex. The Who Sell Out), sounds quite different  from the norm nowadays? When did Rick Wright include the Hammond; curious to know so I get my facts right for Erik's Hammond articles?
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                              Incredible story Dick about Jack Bruce, Allan Holdsworth
                              and Jon Hiseman, this was a hot fusion Thumbs%20Up
 
Good news for the fans of Pink Floyd, especially those who love Rick Wright with his Hammond B3 organ: on December 12th the BBC will broadcast an hour documentary with rare and previously never released video footage of Pink Floyd Clap
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