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Chicapah
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 11:38 |
Thanks for validating my fading memory. I can tell you one thing about the C3, it was lighter and easier to haul around to gigs!
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 11:07 |
Chicapah, after collecting all the information for my Hammond article I understand that mecanically the A-100, B-3 and C-3 are similar, see this (part of my Hammond article):
Hammond C3:
Produced between January 1955 and 1974, price US $ 1123,- (walnut finish and PR40 tone cabinet) in 1967 and US $ 1369,- in 1972. It’s virtually identical to B3 except for more solid side and back casing and it has percussion. “Take a B-3's guts and put it in the C type church model case”.
Edited by erik neuteboom - November 16 2007 at 11:07
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Chicapah
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 10:57 |
Erik, I've noticed that no one's mentioned the smaller Hammond C3 (I think that's right) that had a pretty fat sound, as well. When Richard Theisen, the organ grinder for my band in the 70s, moved up from his Farfisa he had one for several months before graduating up to the mighty B3 (with 2 tall Leslie cabinets and baby that sucker was LOUD!). Just curious if I'm correct in calling it a C3.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 08:41 |
Jim: your post fits perfect to an introduction of my Hammond article
Easy Money: sometimes I forget that it is at least 6 hours earlier in the USA, only in my nightshifts I can easily talk with PA members in the USA! In a music shop I have seen a Hammond Suzuki XB3 demonstration, amazing, almost similar to the genuine Hammond sound!
Chicapah: Thanks .. but my article fantastic? Quite high expectations ... !
My Hammond article Part One is almost finished, every moment I can expect the Leslie story by Canadian Hammond fan Pierre-Olivier, it's the final contribution I need for Part One. Until now, thanks for the posts, participation and for the recommendations
Edited by erik neuteboom - November 16 2007 at 08:50
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Chicapah
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 08:32 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
Well Chicapah, thanks and I would like to have your permission to publish some quotes from you in my Hammond Special, is this OK (from two of your Brian Auger reviews)? I presume fellow Hammond freak Easy Money has no problem, I will also use some of his quotes
Today I published a review on the homepage about Atomic Rooster their DVD entitled The Ultimate Anthology, it contains some very exciting Hammond organ work by the late Vince Crane, especially in the trio-line up with John Du Cann and Paul Hammond
By the way, why you USA citizens always write Eri c instead of Eri k (derived from Norwegian Erik The Viking )?
You don't even have to ask for permission, my friend. And I have a close friend named Eric so that's probably why my subconscious forces me to use a c instead of k. Your outline looks very well constructed so I expect your article to be fantastic.
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Easy Money
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 08:23 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
Good idea Easy Money but the Hammond article is already quite extensive !
Do you mean the Hammond Suzuki XB3? |
That sounds familiar, unfortunately I have to go to "work" now. Talk to you later.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 08:05 |
Easy Money wrote:
I know of a church near my home that has an unused B3 sitting around, I have already expressed interest, but to get the best deal on used stuff you never want to appear too interested. |
There's a beauty of a B3 on Ebay at the moment, 43 bids in already, currently sitting at £2600 (about $4500 US) with 7 days still to go.
The last good condition one I saw there was a couple of years ago & that went for over £8000 , so I guess I'll be sticking to my own wee beastie for the time being (excuse bad piccie):
Edited by Jim Garten - November 16 2007 at 08:08
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 07:35 |
Good idea Easy Money but the Hammond article is already quite extensive !
Do you mean the Hammond Suzuki XB3?
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Easy Money
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 00:02 |
I'm not trying to create more work for you, but if you are interested you might want to mention the organs that were made to sound like a Hammond in your "this is not a Hammond" section ie
Univox Organizer (the main kybd in my story)
Crumar Traveler (I own two)
Korg CX3
and Hammond's current digital copy, I forget the name.
There is a great resource book for old keyboards called Keyfax Omnibus Edition by Julian Colbeck.
Edited by Easy Money - November 16 2007 at 00:04
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 15:17 |
Easy Money, part of my Hammond organ special is the chapter: This Is Not A Hammond organ (based on Magritte his painting This Is Not An Apple ), about the Vox Continental (Animals with Alan Price), the Farfisa organ (Rick Wright in early Pink
Floyd) and the Gibson 101 organ (The Doors).
I just wrote reviews on the homepage about two Hammond drenched albums I played today because of my Hammond article: The Time Machine (CD compilation) by Colosseum and A Whiter Shade Of Pale (reissue of the eponymous debut LP by Repertoire Records) by Procol Harum
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Easy Money
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 14:35 |
Yeah, that is a little ironic. King Crimson is just an incredible band, B3 or not, and that song is one of the oddest little numbers ever. The Lizards album has some kind of organ(s) but it sounds like a Wurlitzer or something even cheaper.
By the way, I also collect Farfisas,one Vox Jaguar,Fender Rhodes, Wurlitzers, all kinds of synths and lots of cheaper electronic kybds. Its all good, but the B3 is the best.
I know of a church near my home that has an unused B3 sitting around, I have already expressed interest, but to get the best deal on used stuff you never want to appear too interested. In the meantime I still have 2 Crumar T1's for that almost Hammond sound.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 14:12 |
Thanks, Easy Money
By the way, you are a Hammond freak but you have chosen the name of a song by one of the few progrock bands that never used a Hammond organ ..
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Easy Money
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 13:57 |
Feel free to use my qoutes, but I think Chicapah is the more eloquent writer. By the way, check my posts, the "k" is always there.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 13:26 |
Well Chicapah, thanks and I would like to have your permission to publish some quotes from you in my Hammond Special, is this OK (from two of your Brian Auger reviews)? I presume fellow Hammond freak Easy Money has no problem, I will also use some of his quotes
Today I published a review on the homepage about Atomic Rooster their DVD entitled The Ultimate Anthology, it contains some very exciting Hammond organ work by the late Vince Crane, especially in the trio-line up with John Du Cann and Paul Hammond
By the way, why you USA citizens always write Eri c instead of Eri k (derived from Norwegian Erik The Viking )?
Edited by erik neuteboom - November 15 2007 at 13:27
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Easy Money
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 11:27 |
Chicapah wrote:
Just a quick note to you, Eric. I've gotten through the best of Oblivion Express now and I'd have to recommend their heavy debut over the rest of OE's catalogue. They get progressively MOR as they go along. |
Hi Chicapah, as a long time Auger fan I have to agree 100% with that. It is very hard to find any jazz fusion artists that didn't decline in the mid to late 70s.
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Chicapah
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 11:09 |
Just a quick note to you, Eric. I've gotten through the best of Oblivion Express now and I'd have to recommend their heavy debut over the rest of OE's catalogue. They get progressively MOR as they go along.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 09:40 |
I am sure Dwill 123
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dwill123
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 09:07 |
Tom Coster is definitely a Master (generally overall keyboards) but I'm not so sure I'd classify Gregg Rolie a Master. Especially when compared to the acknowledged kings (and queens) of the Hammond organ.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 08:28 |
OK Jim, thanks in advance and I am looking forward to it
It's incredible how many Hammond masters Carlos Santana had in his band, from Gregg Rolie and Tom Coster to Chester Thompson, they all will be mentioned in my Hammond Organ Special.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 08:01 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
Greg Rolie A MASTER |
Not to mention Tom Coster..
My own meager contribution nears completion, Erik - with you very soon
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