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rushfan4
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66373 |
Posted: March 15 2014 at 14:33 | |
I feel like Indiana Jones discovering the Temple of Doom. I know that the whole forum is basically a King Crimson appreciation thread, but seems a shame that one of the top PA prog bands doesn't have its active appreciation thread alive and kickin'.
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: January 14 2008 at 15:41 | |
Just put on The Power To Believe for the first time, not knowing what to expect, since I've got nothing after Beat.
'By giving me back the power to believe...' Boom An opening explosion worthy of Fly On A Windshield or Schizoid Man. 'Classic' Crimson. I love it so far. |
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superprog
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 07 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1354 |
Posted: January 14 2008 at 04:48 | |
hey lets petition them to have a special KC remix project, make that a dbl cd of remixes by selected relevant artistes and fans of KC's work.........can invite ppl like Tortoise, Steve Wilson, Helge Sten/Deathprod, Mogwai, Autechre, Merzbow, etc etc etc to have a go!!!
SACRILEGE!!!! but thats the title of Can's remix album too hehehe.............
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micky
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 17:45 | |
that is great they have done that... sort of surprised other groups haven't followed their lead. Especially with the official 'bootlegs' Magma has to a lesser extent.. and those are frickin incredible. Imagine how people would go goo-goo ga-ga over a wealth of Genesis or Yes live material like that. |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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crimhead
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
Posted: January 12 2008 at 15:24 | |
So am I and sadly Robert has his own timetable and Crimson is nothing to be rushed. |
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A B Negative
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 02 2006 Location: Methil Republic Status: Offline Points: 1594 |
Posted: January 12 2008 at 05:59 | |
No KC fan posts for ages, need to do something about that!
I just bought The Collectable King Crimson Volume Two, a live double CD comprising the first gig from the Fripp/Belew/Levin/Bruford line-up in Bath in 1981 (when they were still called Discipline) and another gig from Philadephia in 1982. They're great performances, even if the recording quality of the Bath gig is a bit dodgy (and they do drift away from the beat once or twice, but it was their first gig). My point though: there are so many KC live recordings now that it's overwhelming. There are 76 recordings currently available to download from the DGM website! Does anyone have any favourites they'd recommend? |
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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sircosick
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 29 2007 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 1264 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 22:02 | |
^ Of course the influencial was also influenced. But Raindance say that King Crimson is "hardly" original. They're in fact original, for better or worse. As you said Febus, King Crimson was influenced by some of those bands, but also incorporated a lot of several and diverses influences from many other bands and mixed them creating an own style. How a band with this charasteristic couldn't be original? You can perfectly dislike them, but you also can reckon that they have an unique style of music, even if you don't like or get them.
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The best you can is good enough...
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febus
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: January 23 2007 Location: Orlando-Usa Status: Offline Points: 4312 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 21:44 | |
That's a very difficult debate
Of course KC was original, but external influences cannot be dismissed like everybody else; even the BEATLES at the beginning heard something on the radio from some rock n rollers from the 50s and adapt upon them before finding their own way. everybody has to start from some base.
So i will say everybody is right! The melloton used on ITCOTCK of course will automatically remind us of the MOODY BLUES who were the pioneers., but KC added their own personality.
Anyway, i always have considered NIGHTS IN WHITE SATIN as the grand mother of prog, and a cute one, too never get tired of it
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rileydog22
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 24 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 8844 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 21:44 | |
An excerpt of an interview with Peter Banks:
-In May '69, King Crimson played their 'Marquee debut' and apparently their show provoked a big impact on Yes. Can you remember that particular show? It wasn't at The Marquee, it was at the Speakeasy (April, 9th, 1969). I think their first ever gig was at the Speakeasy. -Yes, thats right. And I know I was there and Bill (Bruford) was there. I don't think Chris (Squire) was there. And I remember standing at the bar of the Speakeasy, which was a tiny little club, I mean, it was basically a restaurant with a bar and a tiny, tiny stage. Which actually Yes, when the Speakeasy re-opened after they had a fire, I think we went to play at The Speakeasy on the opening night and we actually helped to paint the stage 'cause Roy Flynn was saying: 'Come on, come on' you know, running late and I remember us picking up the paint brush and Jon (Anderson) was going 'We are painting stages' and we had to play later that night. With Crimson, I met Fripp a few times, he used to come to see Yes at The Marquee. And I didn't know Fripp was a guitar player, I didn't know much about him. He used to come and he was always wearing a cape, like a cloak with a hood, like a monk. And he had little glasses on, like John Lennon, and he was very tense and he always talked to me after the show and we would talk about guitar strings and guitars, all that kind of stuff. And he was quite nice but seemed a little eccentric and I didn't know much about Crimson, but I do knew that we was putting some sort of band together, I didn't know much more about it than that. And they had very secretive rehearsals. I've known Greg (Lake), 'cause he was with a band from Bournemouth called The Gods. Chris (Squire) and I knew Greg. I think that was the very first gig King Crimson ever did, certainly the first night I saw them, and it was absolutely amazing! And I was standing at the bar with a drink and I never touch my drink throughout the whole set, I just stood there in total amazement. Bill (Bruford) was standing next to me, I think, and we just stood there kind of open mouthed and... I think all of us were there. And we just watched them and immediately we were just amazed about how tight they were, and how good they were, and how good the composition was, and how original they sounded, and we just realized immediately... We thought that we were the best band around, and we probably were. We were pretty confident, as far as London bands went, that Yes were the one. We thought that nobody else was better than us. Crimson tore all that apart. I think we actually said that night we needed to rehearse a lot more. -It was a reality check. Yes, exactly, and I think we may have cancelled some gigs, I'm not sure about it, but we went into pretty intensive London rehearsals. At that time we were rehearsing at Roy Flynn's basement, at the place he used to live in Putney and we kind of turn it into, not exactly a studio, but we could keep the equipment set up. And we became very critical, we became our worst critics because it really shocked us. You know: 'Why are we not this good?'. And it would cause arguments and we started re-arranging things, writing more stuff and all that kind of thing. Sounds to me like King Crimson had a pretty big impact on Yes. |
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sircosick
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 29 2007 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 1264 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 21:09 | |
^ Just following some logic. Have you heard Lizard? If yes, then I dunno how you dare to say that KC is hardly original; if not, go and do it!!
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The best you can is good enough...
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raindance
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 24 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 443 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 20:17 | |
Your statement is a bit hypocritical to say the least!
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sircosick
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 29 2007 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 1264 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 19:58 | |
And what have you heard on early King Crimson? Evidently, at least you've never heard Lizard.
The fact that Procol Harum, Moody Blues, The Nice among other bands made progressive music before King Crimson, doesn't mean that KC were in fact influenced by those bands. |
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raindance
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 24 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 443 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 19:52 | |
Why do you have to read autobiographical texts to spot the influence of bands? Just listen to them and their music, and you will realize that many bands were later ruled by KC. Sometimes musicians don't reckon their influences, or just some of them. [/QUOTE] All I hear on early King Crimson is heavy Moody Blue's, The Nice & Procal Harum influences.
Hardly original!
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sircosick
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 29 2007 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 1264 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 19:39 | |
Stop saying lol dude lol...... Putting an emoticon lol is always better lol.
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kaostheory
Forum Newbie Joined: August 21 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 10 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 18:50 | |
lol yay for sircosic and and everything he stands for lol well done dude sorry i am not trying to flame but i see where you are coming from
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sircosick
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 29 2007 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 1264 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 18:23 | |
Why do you have to read autobiographical texts to spot the influence of bands? Just listen to them and their music, and you will realize that many bands were later ruled by KC. Sometimes musicians don't reckon their influences, or just some of them. |
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The best you can is good enough...
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kaostheory
Forum Newbie Joined: August 21 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 10 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 17:57 | |
wow lol it sounds amazing i cant wait to hear it lol
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febus
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: January 23 2007 Location: Orlando-Usa Status: Offline Points: 4312 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 17:46 | |
Yep! Having listened only to ITCOTCK is not enough to tell KC rule; because you may like what comes after......maybe you won't!!!
KING CRIMSON is not always talking to the wind with a Moonchild under its arm;
......... they fracture a lot of red vroom-wroom with a lizard under strict discipline as well, so be prepared!!!!!
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kaostheory
Forum Newbie Joined: August 21 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 10 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 17:39 | |
i really want to hear red but i cant get my hands on it at the moment
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Floydian42
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 846 |
Posted: August 21 2007 at 17:30 | |
Especially red. |
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