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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

I tried it .... for two of the most painful weeks of my life some years back.... I can live without meat ..well..  I would miss sausage for sure hahha... but my wife kept feeding me canned veggies.  Needless to say....I gave in to my carnivorous nature

and never wanted to see another can of vegetables again LOL
 
What I really wanna know is are you at all acquainted with Indian vegetarian food?
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I tried it .... for two of the most painful weeks of my life some years back.... I can live without meat ..well..  I would miss sausage for sure hahha... but my wife kept feeding me canned veggies.  Needless to say....I gave in to my carnivorous nature

and never wanted to see another can of vegetables again LOL
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The space it takes to raise animals and don't forget the water it takes to keep them alive is a big concern.   Doctors say 3-4 oz of any size portion of meat is enough.  These huge 12oz steaks and half pound burgers are too much.  Not only are they bad for your heart but you have to raise more cows to replace what you ate.  If everyone would cut back their portions there would be less need of factory type of livestock production and more land to do other things with and more fresh water is a good thing as well.  Plus it would reduce methane gas as well. 

So I say eat meat just eat less of it.  And eat more chicken and turkey they take up less land as well.  I would say fish too but it is just so expensive.
 


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Because this is a "vegatarian" thread, I won't waste any time with my opinions and philosophies, but I would like to express my admiration for those who express empathy for our planet's beautiful creatures and have the self-control and strength not to partake in any activity that harms of uses them as resources (in other words, "Vegan"); my only issue is with those who seem to go about it as a fashion or as if it is a more healthy choice (a vegetarian diet is NOT automatically a better choice than an omnivorous one....but there are many that would unflinchingly have you believe it is, no matter what the circumstance)....so anyway, I have much respect for anyone who posses a moral stance and has the strength to act on it in a world that can make it quite difficult.Smile
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Originally posted by Kid-A Kid-A wrote:

Originally posted by limeyrob limeyrob wrote:

I am not vegetarian but believe in everything in moderation. We humans are omnivores and have developed to to use the nutrients in meat. Granted we eat too much of it these days due to its easy availability.
 
Mind you I do get a bit narked about veggies. If I invite a veggie to a meal I either have to make a special meal for them or go veggie myself. If you go to a veggie for a meal you normally have to eat what they do.
 
I know a few veggies who drink milk (usually cows). Obviously casting a blind eye to the fact that for a cow to produce milk it has to have a calf - which ends up as veal.
 
I absolutely agree with moderation. Our culture is meat-crazy, more than is necessary for a healthy diet. I remember hearing a statistic like it would take 1.3 Europes to produce the grain necessary to feed all of Britains meat live-stock. It's crazy.
 
And yes, it annoys the hell out of me when people act very moralistic on animal rights, then drink milk from cow's with it's calves taken away, or eat an endangered fish species without caring.
 
And to the guy who said how is eating a living fruit any different to eating meat? That's the whole freaking point of fruit! To be eaten and spread the seeds.


Many religious folk would argue that the purpose of non-human animals is also to be eaten by us. 

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I am not a vegeterian, but I know a lot of teenage drama queens at my school who are VEGAN!!!
 
Probably just to get some attention IMO
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Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

Speaking of Vegeterianism, a couple months ago Jon Anderson revealed that he now eats fish!
I bet Chris Squre is looking a little worried now LOL
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Speaking of Vegeterianism, a couple months ago Jon Anderson revealed that he now eats fish!
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Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

I am not vegetarian, though at some point in the past I considered becoming one. However, the almost fanatical stance of some people I knew put me off big time, so I remained omnivorous. I do eat lots of fruit and vegetables anyway, and I'm not a great consumer of red meat. 
 
Hmm, that cat looks really delicious.
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Originally posted by limeyrob limeyrob wrote:

I am not vegetarian but believe in everything in moderation. We humans are omnivores and have developed to to use the nutrients in meat. Granted we eat too much of it these days due to its easy availability.
 
Mind you I do get a bit narked about veggies. If I invite a veggie to a meal I either have to make a special meal for them or go veggie myself. If you go to a veggie for a meal you normally have to eat what they do.
 
I know a few veggies who drink milk (usually cows). Obviously casting a blind eye to the fact that for a cow to produce milk it has to have a calf - which ends up as veal.
 
I absolutely agree with moderation. Our culture is meat-crazy, more than is necessary for a healthy diet. I remember hearing a statistic like it would take 1.3 Europes to produce the grain necessary to feed all of Britains meat live-stock. It's crazy.
 
And yes, it annoys the hell out of me when people act very moralistic on animal rights, then drink milk from cow's with it's calves taken away, or eat an endangered fish species without caring.
 
And to the guy who said how is eating a living fruit any different to eating meat? That's the whole freaking point of fruit! To be eaten and spread the seeds.
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

No, but I could be if I wanted to after I got into Indian vegetarian food.  Anyone with me on this?



Clap  Although, I still couldn't give up meat.  But sometimes I feel I could eat Indian every day and not get tired of it.
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Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

I wonder why eating living vegetables and fruits isn't considered worse than eating dead animals?
There are people who will only eat vegetables that have 'died' naturally and therefore live on seeds, pulses and 'windfalls'.
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I am not vegetarian, though at some point in the past I considered becoming one. However, the almost fanatical stance of some people I knew put me off big time, so I remained omnivorous. I do eat lots of fruit and vegetables anyway, and I'm not a great consumer of red meat. 
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I wonder why eating living vegetables and fruits isn't considered worse than eating dead animals?
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

No, but I could be if I wanted to after I got into Indian vegetarian food.  Anyone with me on this?
I don't smoke tobacco, but I do enjoy alcohol.  I make three mean batches of frozen drinkies.  Anyone interested in the recepies send me a private message.  I'd share them here already but it would be off topic.  Tongue

Post them in the Prog Chefs Unite! thread - we could do with some drinkies : http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35081
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No, but I could be if I wanted to after I got into Indian vegetarian food.  Anyone with me on this?
I don't smoke tobacco, but I do enjoy alcohol.  I make three mean batches of frozen drinkies.  Anyone interested in the recepies send me a private message.  I'd share them here already but it would be off topic.  Tongue
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Points: 1594 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2007 at 09:58
Interesting how many posts are from meat eaters...
 
I don't eat meat because I think unnecessary killing is wrong.
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I consider myself more food chain sensitive than most vegetarians.
It is my plan to eat all the meat I can and get nice and fat so that when I die the nitrates released from my giant decomposing corpse will feed countless generations of vegetable life.
 
So there!!!
 
 
 
Just kidding, I do really have a strong appreciation for the commitment required for a strict vegetarian diet.  I don't have it.  It was hard enough to stop being a nicotinatarian.

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Definately not at all, but working on that I think....
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