How Worthless Are You?

Indeed value (of anything) comes only by the relation to a fruition, just like use comes from the relation to the purpose or fulfillment comes from the relation to expectations etc. And just like T, I have come to think one's basic worth is that for oneself. As for me, my life sucks as I have come to lose most of the things I need and cherish  , so from this point of view I'm pretty worthless to myself. I have also broken the relations with family and friends in order to endure the emptiness, so there's nothing worthy for any side coming from this part. I am worth 300 euro/month for the guys I work for and that's a decent... appreciation in this part of the world, but again I'm not satisfied (this goes very well together with my post on the "Do you like your job" poll).

BTW, "ceai" (to be pronounced "chai") means tea in my language, too.

BTW, you'll almost certainly feel much less worthless after a warming, soothing mug of CHAI!

I am totally worthless but accordingly I am thus not obligated to do anything  (or still )

i feel kinda worthless, and could be pretty worthless

but if there's someone who can tell if i'm worthless or not, i guess it would be God

Peter Rideout wrote: The Miracle wrote: Peter Rideout wrote: The Miracle wrote: 100% worthless. Humans are all worthless, pathetic creatures. What about art? Do you pay for music, or is that product of universally "worthless" humans also worthless to you? Humans have added considerable beauty to the world, via art. If 'god" were about to exterminate us all, I'd use art (and other things) as a reason not to. If I felt as you claim to, I'd have to seriously consider suicide (please don't, though)! I'd wager you won't always feel that way. I vividly remember feeling as you've stated, when in my teens/early 20s. Life can get better with maturity, finding real love, and working toward a meaningful vocation. Try to believe in yourself, and build a better future! BTW, is that cheery, murderous fellow in your sig pic you? Remember that guy from the goth site, who'd posted pics of himself with weapons, then went on a high school shooting rampage? No one spoke up or found the pics unusual..... I've seriously considered suicide many, many times... But I'll never do it so don't worry. I do believe in myself, "I am god" as Mike(from Stranger In A Strange Land used to say... I feel like that most of the time. The most interesting people I know are on this forum - my peers are boring and cliched(I HATE teenagers), and in most people find shallowness and ignorance. I agree that art is the best thing that came out of the human race. No, that's not me in my sig. I'll have to wait another year or so for my hair to become that beautiful, it's only doen to my chin right now. It's Varg Vikernes(Burzum), creator of some of the most touching music I know, same guy as in my avvy. He's just screwing around with knives. Ironically, he did kill a man, but that incident was nothing special. Want me to change my sig? There are more appealing pics of him. He's nothing scary, on the contrary, the essence of coolness. I see, and I'm very glad you weren't offended by my concern that it might be you. As a teacher, I have very real, immediate reasons to takes pictures of young people posing with weapons seriously. There have been incidences I can't really talk about -- and not just far away ones. I have had DIRECT experience of such matters, more than once, I assure you, and cause to feel less than secure at work, from time to time. (Right now, as we speak, one of my favourite students is living in fear because of death threats from her ex-boyfriend (still out there somewhere). While working in a hospital in downtown Toronto for ten years as well, I got to see some of the lethal results of youth gangs and guns, and weaponry such as that which appeared in that other pic. I don't appreciate an earlier poster's sarcasm toward my earlier concern in this regard. I am no panicked, over-reacting fool or prude, and this is NOT a funny or minor subject. In my profession, we have to act on such concerns and err on the side of caution if we are to err. Enough said....

The Miracle wrote: Peter Rideout wrote: The Miracle wrote: 100% worthless. Humans are all worthless, pathetic creatures. What about art? Do you pay for music, or is that product of universally "worthless" humans also worthless to you? Humans have added considerable beauty to the world, via art. If 'god" were about to exterminate us all, I'd use art (and other things) as a reason not to. If I felt as you claim to, I'd have to seriously consider suicide (please don't, though)! I'd wager you won't always feel that way. I vividly remember feeling as you've stated, when in my teens/early 20s. Life can get better with maturity, finding real love, and working toward a meaningful vocation. Try to believe in yourself, and build a better future! BTW, is that cheery, murderous fellow in your sig pic you? Remember that guy from the goth site, who'd posted pics of himself with weapons, then went on a high school shooting rampage? No one spoke up or found the pics unusual..... I've seriously considered suicide many, many times... But I'll never do it so don't worry. I do believe in myself, "I am god" as Mike(from Stranger In A Strange Land used to say... I feel like that most of the time. The most interesting people I know are on this forum - my peers are boring and cliched(I HATE teenagers), and in most people find shallowness and ignorance. I agree that art is the best thing that came out of the human race. No, that's not me in my sig. I'll have to wait another year or so for my hair to become that beautiful, it's only doen to my chin right now. It's Varg Vikernes(Burzum), creator of some of the most touching music I know, same guy as in my avvy. He's just screwing around with knives. Ironically, he did kill a man, but that incident was nothing special. Want me to change my sig? There are more appealing pics of him. He's nothing scary, on the contrary, the essence of coolness.

I see, and I'm very glad you weren't offended by my concern that it might be you. As a teacher, I have very real, immediate reasons to takes pictures of young people posing with weapons seriously.

There have been incidences I can't really talk about -- and not just far away ones. I have had DIRECT experience of such matters, more than once, I assure you, and cause to feel less than secure at work, from time to time. (Right now, as we speak, one of my favourite students is living in fear because of death threats from her ex-boyfriend (still out there somewhere). While working in a hospital in downtown Toronto for ten years as well, I got to see some of the lethal results of youth gangs and guns, and weaponry such as that which appeared in that other pic.

I don't appreciate an earlier poster's sarcasm toward my earlier concern in this regard. I am no panicked, over-reacting fool or prude, and this is NOT a funny or minor subject. In my profession, we have to act on such concerns and err on the side of caution if we are to err. Enough said....


Edited by Peter Rideout - March 23 2007 at 23:37

Since we are all part of this great universal organism, we all have value. No one is worthless. You can't devalue a part, without doing the same to the whole.

^The music is nothing aggressive, It's very atmospheric, ambient Black Metal, not heavy and very emotional in a melancholic way, inspired by Norwegian nature and folk legends. Did you read the whole story or just the Euronymous part? He talks about the influences in the origins and the music sections. The whole Burzum story is interesting, it's in the Library section. I'll "recommend" you an album soon

Reading all of that story made me even more interested in listening to Burzum (I heard the name many times and I became curious, but this story took the cake).

That was an interesting case... I think I'm going to translate it and bring it to my criminal law teacher for her to analyze it.