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Poll Question: Whose death meant the greatest loss to progressive music?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
6 [10.34%]
28 [48.28%]
1 [1.72%]
9 [15.52%]
11 [18.97%]
3 [5.17%]
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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 17:12
Originally posted by Mategra Mategra wrote:

I voted for Shaun Guerin

I have never heard his music, only read about it. He put out two albums (in 2002 and 2003) in the vein of early Genesis. He passed away in 2003.  His music made a strong impression on Paul Whitehead who made the artwork for both albums. 

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Points: 592 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 16:52
I voted for Zappa too, he's a genius and one of the most influential musical pioneers of our times. I do respect him even if I never really have got into his music.
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I voted for Shaun Guerin

I have never heard his music, only read about it. He put out two albums (in 2002 and 2003) in the vein of early Genesis. He passed away in 2003.  His music made a strong impression on Paul Whitehead who made the artwork for both albums. 
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Points: 7003 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 16:31
The 1980s were a total loss from a prog point of view - with a couple of honorable exceptions like King Crimson.
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

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Points: 120 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 16:31

 

Nice thread Manunkind. Gives me a chance to further my crusade to have Geoff Mann recognised as the greatest prog lyricist ever.

'Sequences' has the best anti-war lyrics ever. His sharp insightful take on the hypocrisy of politicians in 'We Are Sane' should be essential (and compulsary) listening for anyone with an interest in lyrics.

Possibly his greatest achievement though were the lyrics to 'Love Song'. Words so simple but sung with such sincerity that he proved that wild flowery symbolism wasn't necessary to get the most important of messages across.

As important as Zappa musically? No, but a genius and someone who followed his beliefs no matter the consequences.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by AngelRat AngelRat wrote:

Phil Collins

Now now, lets not bash the poison dwarf. His contribution to prog compensates for his treachery..

maybe..

 And the video to "I Can't Dance" tips the balance in his favor.
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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2005 at 16:29

Originally posted by AngelRat AngelRat wrote:

Phil Collins

Now now, lets not bash the poison dwarf. His contribution to prog compensates for his treachery..

maybe..
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Its a wonderful thing that these guys left their mark in music. They'll never be forgotten, thanks to their talent, people like us who appreciate it and websites like this that help keep their memory alive.

I voted Zappa. I think that was very sad day for music generally.



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1. Syd Barrett is alive but he's dead to the world of music and from what I heard dead to the world period.

2. Shawn Lane is not really prog, but he's close enough and I'd like to hear somebody's opinion on him.

3. Please vote explicitly for all the deceased people you consider important to prog that I have missed.

4. I am aware of the fact that only a few hours ago I stated that polls were astoundingly stupid. Well, this one is intended more as a vehicle for some "what if" speculation. In which direction were these musicians' tastes inclined when they died? Do these late inclinations shed more light on their previous achievements and/or put them in a new, different perspective? I encourage you to elaborate on your choices, since I want to learn something from this poll. This is why I am allowing multiple votes. Take your time and write what you want to write.

I'm voting for Zappa, Geoff Mann and Barrett. It would seem obvious that whatever one may think of him, Zappa was one of the most versatile musicians in history; you never knew what he would come up with next. And I do wonder what kind of music he would be writing from 1993 to 2005. Geoff Mann's death robbed prog of an astounding lyricist, someone very sensitive to both the external as well as our internal world. How would he react to current events and how would he translate his reaction to word and music? And Barrett, someone whose anxieties might have fed his genius for a while but then started eating into it and left basically nothing. What if these anxieties had been tempered and he had been able to function normally? Would he have left Pink Floyd and pursued a solo career, or stayed and brought their music into a direction totally different than the one we know today? What kind of direction?

I encourage all of you to voice your opinions, regardless of how inexperienced in all things prog some of you might consider yourselves to be.

        



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