Illegal Downloading

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   In my opinion it is NEVER acceptable (if you need my reasons they are on my RYM profile). I have never and will never do it. My entire collection is made up of legitimately bought CDs, amassed since around 1990. I have been lucky enough to have had a well paid job during that time and averaged, over that time, around 230 CDs a year. I can see how anyone who was unemployed ot poorly paid might be sorely tempted to transgress into buying illegally. I can honestly say that if I hadn't been so fortunate, job wise, that I still would not have done it - purely on moral grounds. 

There is NO excuse to download on the basis that the album is out of print. You can absolutely guarantee that at some time in the future it will be. It may take some years but there will be a release.

As for doing it because "it's free". Well you're a bloody thief and I'd like to see all people who steal in this way prosecuted!

I can see no valid reason why this post should be "pulled". After all, you're only scoping out the situation - not attempting to legitimise illegal downloading. 
Is that you intention?

Edited by Glueman - February 13 2007 at 03:48

Poll Question: Would you consider it acceptable if ?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Album is out of print/unavailable	7	[26.92%]
Limited Budget	4	[15.38%]
I bought the 8track,LP, Cassette, I've paid for it, OK	1	[3.85%]
The band's long, they wouldn't get any money anyway	0	[0.00%]
I hate the RIAA	2	[7.69%]
Check out artist/album, buy later if you like	2	[7.69%]
it's free	2	[7.69%]
Never really thought about the consequences	0	[0.00%]
It's never acceptable	6	[23.08%]
Collectors, sellers asking unreasonable prices for rarities	2	[7.69%]
Don't need to, great 2nd record shop nearby	0	[0.00%]
This topic is closed, no new votes accepted

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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Guest Group	Posted: February 13 2007 at 02:04
	In my opinion it is NEVER acceptable (if you need my reasons they are on my RYM profile). I have never and will never do it. My entire collection is made up of legitimately bought CDs, amassed since around 1990. I have been lucky enough to have had a well paid job during that time and averaged, over that time, around 230 CDs a year. I can see how anyone who was unemployed ot poorly paid might be sorely tempted to transgress into buying illegally. I can honestly say that if I hadn't been so fortunate, job wise, that I still would not have done it - purely on moral grounds. There is NO excuse to download on the basis that the album is out of print. You can absolutely guarantee that at some time in the future it will be. It may take some years but there will be a release. As for doing it because "it's free". Well you're a bloody thief and I'd like to see all people who steal in this way prosecuted! I can see no valid reason why this post should be "pulled". After all, you're only scoping out the situation - not attempting to legitimise illegal downloading. Is that you intention? Edited by Glueman - February 13 2007 at 03:48

Masque Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 01 2006 Status: Offline Points: 808	Posted: February 12 2007 at 23:54
	this poll is gonna get "it" I think panta , they are sensitive about this issue

Chris H Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: October 08 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Status: Offline Points: 8191	Posted: February 12 2007 at 22:16
	This is a fine thread and all, but I'm not going to answer because I fear that the second Jody takes a peek at this it will be closed. I mean, this site does get kinda strict about talking about illegal downloads. Remeber that Pink Floyd bootleg thread? hehe
	Beauty will save the world.

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Guest Group	Posted: February 12 2007 at 22:14
	I'm just curious as to the extent in our PA prog community of illegal downloading. Especially after the thread about streaming that explained that if you can stream it, you can download. This along with some members seemingly humongous amount of groups they have reviewed, recommended , or generally seem to be able to discuss in a knowledgeable way. I know in some cases, collections have been amassed over decades, so I don't mean to say that a massive number of albums necessarily means they were obtained illegally. Let's face it, some of the older stuff isn't found everywhere, & imagining the ability to pay a hundred dollars/euros, whatever for any album, especially for one they may never have heard before seems a bit far-fetched to me. In case, the RIAA is listening in, a caveat, use the O.J. approach to book writing; i.e. if I did it, this would be why; but I don't do it & don't condone it etc ... P.S. I've been buying records, cassettes, 8 tracks (way back when) & now Cds, and very few legal downloads, in my case from Puretracks in Canada for close to 35 years. So I would not doubt a person ability to put together a quite extensive collection.