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Rocktopus
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Posted: April 25 2007 at 06:53 | |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: April 25 2007 at 04:22 | |
While I liked Miles 50's Quintet with Coltrane (in which KOB), I must say I am not a fan of his 60's Quintet (ESP, Killimandjaro etc...) because there is something really cold and mechanic to that groups.
However from In A Slilent Way (68) until the Agartha album (77), his discography is near flawless. I must say that Miles got lost a bit in the 80's, though.
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prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Chus
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Posted: April 24 2007 at 20:38 | |
Curiously enough, The Miles had spawned hundreds of imitators ever since with his trademark vibrato-less note playing -mainly due to being originally raised in a more classical enviroment-, although he was not considered a virtuoso, his influence is noted in the creation and development of cool jazz (even when some claimed Miles to be a cheap imitator of Chet Baker, which apparently was the other way around) as well as modal and jazz fusion (development if not creation per se); thus he is aknowledge more for influence and musicality than musicianship; love Kind Of Blue and his cool jass records and recently discovered Bitches Brew (which was missing from my father's archives, strangely enough), also strange I listened to most fusion before I found Miles' "electric" albums Edited by Chus - April 24 2007 at 21:14 |
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Sasquamo
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Posted: April 24 2007 at 19:37 | |
Miles Davis is awesome. His sextet and quintet were amazing, ranks up with John Coltrane's group.
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BroSpence
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Posted: April 24 2007 at 16:50 | |
Miles was a brilliant man and Kind of Blue (and Giant Steps) is what got me into Jazz. Kind of Blue is a fantastic album for many reasons.
What else makes Miles great? He worked with: Coltrane, Zawinul, Hancock, Evans, McLaughlin, and among the many other greats I suppose I'll list Chick although I'm not too fond of his work. Well I like it, but sometimes he gets old. Anyways, Miles had awesome groups to work with and knew what he wanted to do. I really enjoy his late 60s/70s albums simply for the odd textures that he creates. In A Silent Way, Files de Kilamanjaro (especially), Bitches Brew, Agharta (can never spell it properly), both the live at the filmoore albums are excellent. And On the Corner is supreme! Super funky-fusion. Its great and often over looked. |
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unclemeat69
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Posted: April 24 2007 at 14:00 | |
I love his music, so I voted yes!!!
Bitches Brew is indeed widely regarded as the first fusion/jazzrock album, although Hot Rats (Zappa), sounds very much like jazzrock, having been recorded during the very same week on the other (west)coast. |
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Reverie
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Posted: February 10 2007 at 19:41 | |
Yes. Yes i do. Yes i do like Miles Davis. Indeed. Uh-huh. Correct.
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Zargus
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Posted: February 10 2007 at 09:21 | |
yes i like the 69-75 stuff And kind of blue is pretty good 2 i gues
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Dick Heath
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Posted: February 10 2007 at 06:41 | |
I thought we had stopped regurgitating such poorly researched statements. I'll take "made it mainstream"; read Stuart Nicholson's Jazz Rock: A History for a considered viewpoint. |
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Posted: February 10 2007 at 06:17 | |
'Like' is too mild a word. |
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MusicForSpeedin
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Posted: February 10 2007 at 01:03 | |
I've been listening to more Jazz than Prog. latley. Miles and Eric Dolphy have been invading my ears nonstop for a few weeks now.
This guy is probably my favorite in the fusion genre along with Mahavishnu. Miles on the Corner is awesome with McLaughlin on it.
"I've changed music four or five times. What have you done of any importance other than be white?" Davis attended a reception in honor of Ray Charles at Ronald Reagan' s White House in 1987. This was his reply to a Washington society lady seated next to him who had asked him what he had done to be invited. |
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LarryCanary
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Posted: February 09 2007 at 22:51 | |
Sketches of Spain is very good stuff
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Visitor13
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 08:59 | |
If by 'developed' the original poster had meant 'started', then some people are wrong. Ask Dick Heath for the details. And yeah, I like MD. Not my favourite jazz guy, but plenty of great music from him for sure. |
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pero
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 08:54 | |
I like his work, but only fusion period.
Tribute to Jack Johnson is my favorite. In a silent way was birth of jazz rock.
Herbie Hancock formed Headhunters
John Mclauglin and Cobham Mahavishnu orchestra
Wayne shorter and Jozef Zawinul Weather report
Chick Corea formed Return to forever
Tonny Williams Tonny Williams lifetime
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Spacemac
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 07:10 | |
Yes Yes Yes |
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CryoftheCarrots
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 05:24 | |
Was priviliged to see Miles Davis live in concert not long before he died.I was 4 rows back from the stage.He still had it then.From a fusion point of view people are forgetting the other big one -Live Evil. Very much a partner to Bitches Brew with John Mclaughlin on guitar.
A recent addition to my collection is the DVD "miles electric : a different kind of blue ".An outstanding doco about Miles' famous Isle of Wight festival appearance in 1970. Really shows how fusion fit in to a rock festival.
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andu
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 04:35 | |
I had the occasion to listen to two of his (probable not very important) albums, they were Tutu and Kind of Blue if I'm not wrong. I didn't like it at all and the trumpet's specific sound annoyed me to tears. Torture for me, so my vote goes for "no, or not yet" - that's because I intend to give him some more tries. It wouldn't be the first time that I may get into something I initially hated, and I think that the fact that in between I discovered jazzrock is an advantage.
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 03:31 | |
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 00:29 | |
Kind Of Blue took me longer than any prog album to get into. I think you should try revisiting it. It's not my kind of music, but it spoke to me after enough time. |
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FragileDT
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 23:49 | |
I would agree with you Walker. Miles' first fusion record was definitely In A Silent Way for me, and it's a masterpiece at that! It's not as well defined as Bitches Brew or Lifetime but it sure is fusion. Maybe, proto-fusion. . With that said I love Miles. |
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