Queen: Part II

I love Queen to death and yeah a lot of their stuff is quite prog, I just don't think they have enough to be on this site.

All:

Sorry.  We've been down this road before.  Although some or much of Night at the Opera and Day at the Races might legitimately be classified as "prog," this does not represent enough of the group's output to add them to the site.  And, no, although Sheer Heart Attack arguably had some "prog sensibilities," it is not "prog."  Nor, by any means, are their first two albums, despite attempts to classify them that way.  However, even if all five albums were prog, this is still not the majority, much less the vast majority, of their output.

Feel free to keep making your case.  But this one has been rejected a number of times, and a change in the webmasters' decision is highly unlikely.

Peace.

Thanks Rob!
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2914&P N=6

this was the discussion about Eastern European Prog, this should be a good place to start. Personally, my favourite Czech and Slovak prog artists are Dezo Ursiny, Fermata, M-Efekt, Prazsky Vyber and Flamengo. I'm unfortunately ignorant of the music scenes of other eastern european countries.

and this is the link to a discussion about Queen, I think it's worth reading:)
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2798&K W=queen

Thanks James Lee:)
It would be great for me to see a Slovak or a Czech band in the review section. I noticed a discussion called "East European prog" here and was glad to find out that a few people around here(not from post communist countries) know some of our prog bands.

QUEEN PART 2: Brian May Strikes Back

I think it would be a good idea to give Queen a chance on this site. Their first five albums are definitely prog and are also popular and influential, and that should provoke some interesting debate in the review section...
songs like My Fairy King, March of the Black Queen, Prophet Song, Rhapsody, are prog rock gems and are easily accesible and they could motivate the listener to explore prog rock further.

and I LOVE Brian May's guitar sound and I love the way he plays as well-technically perfect melodic solos and fills, always with an idea, each note being just in the right place and played the right way:)

LOL, Blacksword and I agree on many things...but this isn't one of them.

I LOVE Brian May's guitar sound!

And for about the same period that Genesis was releasing their truly prog albums, Queen was also quite arguable prog by nature. I challenge anyone to listen to their first three or four albums and not find prog rock elements in abundance! Queen II, especially, seems to me to be almost stereotypically 70s prog, with the fantasy imagery and extended narrative pieces.

Of course, some of their latter-day releases are laughable...but how many 70s artists (even the ones with much less taste-defying tendencies) aged well? Once the 80s set in, it was either go ridiculously big or go underground, and Queen was not a band that could have flourished as a cult favorite.

But as with any band (I won't name names- that's just asking for trouble), I don't really care if they're in the database or not.

Dick Heath wrote: Blacksword wrote: Queen were a fusion of different genres, held together with camp pomposity and a quirky sense of humour..   Sounds like a good definition of early progressive rock........................ however, as I've said before, I believe it is daft to bring a band in, when the majority of a band's recording catalogue isn't prog. However, Maani & Co must seriously consider a section within the reviews, that allows for the bands with the odd prog album, e.g Spooky Tooth/Pierre Henry: Ceremony Wishbone Ash: Argus and Pilgrimage (and let the list commence  - with justifications for inclusion) I agree. That sounds like the best compromise to me. A seperate section in the archives for artists with only some prog credentials. I would welcome that.

Queen were a fusion of different genres, held together with camp pomposity and a quirky sense of humour..

They combined glam with jazz, pop, rock, blues and all manner of musical styles. They were a good band, for a while at least. About once every five years I'll dig out Queen II or Night at the opera, play them and smile. They were talented and innovative, and you have to admit that they were progressive and they were a rock band. Therefore logically they were a progressive rock band. They exhibited some prog cliches, even. The English eccentricty that came out of some of their songs (Lazing on a Sunday afternoon) for example, the occasional world music influences (Prophets song & Mustapha), the fantasy imagery (Ogre battle & Seven Seas of Rhye)

I would have difficulty arguing against them being in the archives. To be honset they are not among my favourite bands. They're a little too camp for me, and I HATE Brian Mays guitar sound, but if the consensus is that they are prog I wouldn't contest the decision.

I just wouldn't admit to my cool friends that Queen belong to my favourite genre. They already suspect and I have to keep trying to pursuade them otherwise..