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MikeEnRegalia 
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 Posted: September 20 2006 at 09:40 |
Maybe a new word is in order, such as "clao" (combination of "classic" and "neo"). Or "nesic". 
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sleeper
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 09:36 |
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 09:01 |
 Certif1ed wrote:
Twelfth Night's "Fact and Fiction" and "Live at the Target" are fantastic examples of Neo Prog - even though both were released before it became recognised as a genre.
I would also include Genesis "Duke" as the earliest Neo-Prog album, even though it's a bit of a crossover in many ways. It's a fantastic album, if you don't mind good tunes! |
I recently rated Pink Floyd - The Wall on my website ... and IMHO it's Neo Prog.  Surely that's stretching the definition, but it's just definitely not classic prog.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 08:39 |
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Twelfth Night's "Fact and Fiction" and "Live at the Target" are fantastic examples of Neo Prog - even though both were released before it became recognised as a genre.
I would also include Genesis "Duke" as the earliest Neo-Prog album, even though it's a bit of a crossover in many ways. It's a fantastic album, if you don't mind good tunes!
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lucas
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 08:31 |
And also worth mentioning :
It bites
Shaun Guerin
Mario Millo (Windchase, Sebastian Hardie)
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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lucas
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 08:01 |
violet district
pablo el enterrador
clepsydra
sagrado coraçao da terra (a blend of neo & sympho)
casino (with the great Geoff Mann on vocals)
shadowland (the album 'ring of roses', if you want an alternatove to the fish-like voice, with a more roberth smith-like voice)
colin bass - an outcast of the island
martin orford (keyboardist for IQ, his solo album is really sublime)
Saga - heads or tales
Michael Sadler - clear (vocalist for SAGA)
IONA - beyond these shores (a blend of neo, pop and celtic folk)
Edited by lucas - September 20 2006 at 08:05
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Wilcey
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 04:17 |
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Try "Believe" by Pendragon, if you found Masquerade Overture 'not the thing for you' you will find some different sounds and structures on Believe, check out some of the samples on the website (www.pendragon.mu) I was (and still am) amazed by this album!
For other stuff, have you tried other Jadis? or Steve Thorne's debut?
Out of the Arena paddock, my favourite is definitely Immortal?........... but we all have our quirks, its about wether or not you feel it, this is music , not science!
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fuxi
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 03:17 |
Who needs Neo when there's so much else? 
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SolariS
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 01:08 |
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I'm very much the same way. I liked Marillion and IQ a lot, but then there was a number of other neo-prog bands I didn't like. I did however enjoy these albums:
Arena: Contagion
Aufklarung: de la Tempesta
Satellite: A Street Between Sunrise and Sunset
Maybe that will help.
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 23:45 |
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I highly recommend Red Sand if you love Script for a Jester's Tear.
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mukster
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 23:16 |
I can handle IQ without the vocalist. He makes every song sound the same. 
I agree with Arena. Magenta is okay too.
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"Johnny calls the chemist, but the chemist doesn't come"
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tuxon
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 23:15 |
lightbulb_son wrote:
I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong here. For some reason I just cannot completely get into neo-prog. It seems odd that I am in love with Marillion and IQ's albums, but I can't find anything else I like. Right now I'm completely infatuated with Marbles, but I started neo-prog with Script For A Jester's Tear and Dark Matter. I love these discs and lots of Marillion and IQ's others. My usual music is PT, post-rock, Symphonic, Italian, and some progressive metal.
Did I start too high, and now everything else will seem mediocre?
Are Marillion and IQ the only good neo-prog bands?
Anyone else struggling with this genre?
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Yes you started too high, Marillion and IQ are amongst the best you can find, but there are numerous bands that are alike, and if you want similar sounding bands that's not hard to do, if you however want something unique within the Neo-prog style, that's a bit harder to do.
Best of the Bunch IMO:
Pendragon : Window Of Life, Masquerade overture, Not Of This World,
Arena: Pride, The Visitor, Contagion.
Clepsydra: More Grains of Sand, Hologram
Collage: Moonshine
Saens: Prophet in a statistical World, Escaping from the hands of God
Satellite: A street between sunrise and sunset
Shadowland: Ring Of Roses
Aufklärung: de la tempesta
Fish: Vigil in a wilderness of mirrors, Raingods with zippo's
Twelfth Night: Fact and Fiction
Discipline: Unfolded like staircase
Jadis: More Than Meets the eye
Pallas: Beat The Drum
Landmarq: Solitary Witness
Shakary: Alya
I'd start with Aufklärung if I where you, for it has that typical itallian flavour added to there sympho sound, maybe Discipline will do also, more than the others it is inspired by Van Der Graaf Generator, which gives it some unique quality IMO. of course Arena and Pendragon needs to be listened too aswell.
another band that i like to mention is not regarded as neo-progressive, but I regard it as a neo-progressive band:
Echolyn: Mei and Suffocating the Bloom are both excellent, as is the rest of their material.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 23:12 |
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The Watch Moongarden Timothy Pure Satellite
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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greenback
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 22:33 |
memowakeman wrote:
yeah.. Moonshine is awesome.. but something happens to me.. that i prefer a bit more Basnie for some strange reason... |
i don't like the sound of basnie.
Edited by greenback - September 19 2006 at 22:35
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memowakeman
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 22:25 |
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yeah.. Moonshine is awesome.. but something happens to me.. that i prefer a bit more Basnie for some strange reason...
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greenback
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 22:23 |
try collage - moonshine! it is the best neo prog album ever made!
try also saens - hands of god
satellite
violet district
jadis - more than meets the eye
iluvatar - children
chandelier
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memowakeman
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 22:10 |
A couple of years ago i couldn`t get into it too... now i can suggest two of a bands that i sympathize very much:
Collage and Quidam.... the second one with female vocals... im not an expert in the genre, but believe me , both are great bands....
and for me... i dont like Pendragon at all
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The Wizard
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 21:49 |
con safo wrote:
Consider it a blessing. |
I like Mariilion a lot, but that's only neo I have listened to.
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stonebeard
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 21:48 |
You're probably more normal if you can't get into Neo-Prog, I'd say. 
Try Saens' Escaping from the Hands of God and Strangefish's Full Scale. There are other bands, but if you don't like Pendragon, I doubt you'll like Arena. Stll, try Immortal? or Contagion, as they're closer to prog metal than all other Arena releases. If you end up liking none of these albums, I'd like to give you some more choices, but I think you're better off sticking to IQ and Marillion.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 21:41 |
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Try Riverside, even though they're a prog-metal band, they have a lot of neo-prog in their sound.
Also try Discipline's Unfolded Like Staircase.
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