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stonebeard
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 00:30 |
king of Siam wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Peter, I know it may seem to be a poor truth from your perspective, but the way I see it, certain people (perhaps a good majority) not caring about history, politics, news and all of these other aspects of scholarly studies isn't really a very bad thing. My outlook on life is currently "we're here for a short time, so let's make it worth our while." No matter how noble it sounds to try and make the world a better place for the future, I think that the human race ultimately has to be selfish. I think it has a lot to do with individual personality, and probably in no small part to the fact that I'm young, single, and not a parent with any dependants, but I believe people should live how they choose, and if getting washed up in a television program gives them that pleasure, then why the hell not go for it. Reading can and probably will lead to a higher level of intelligence and possibly success, but it will also lead just as much to noncomplacency, scepticism, and cynicism. In the end, will you really be a happier person? | You know what happends when people "turn off" their minds don't you?
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History repeates itself and it is currently happening again. Lovely secrets prisons in Europe, no? I wonder what's going to happen when we finally go to all-out war with Iran? Of course, I'd never fight in such a war.
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KoS
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 00:21 |
stonebeard wrote:
Peter, I know it may seem to be a poor truth from your perspective, but the way I see it, certain people (perhaps a good majority) not caring about history, politics, news and all of these other aspects of scholarly studies isn't really a very bad thing. My outlook on life is currently "we're here for a short time, so let's make it worth our while." No matter how noble it sounds to try and make the world a better place for the future, I think that the human race ultimately has to be selfish. I think it has a lot to do with individual personality, and probably in no small part to the fact that I'm young, single, and not a parent with any dependants, but I believe people should live how they choose, and if getting washed up in a television program gives them that pleasure, then why the hell not go for it. Reading can and probably will lead to a higher level of intelligence and possibly success, but it will also lead just as much to noncomplacency, scepticism, and cynicism. In the end, will you really be a happier person? |
You know what happends when people "turn off" their minds don't you?
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Peter
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 00:16 |
stonebeard wrote:
Peter, I know it may seem to be a poor truth from your perspective, but the way I see it, certain people (perhaps a good majority) not caring about history, politics, news and all of these other aspects of scholarly studies isn't really a very bad thing. My outlook on life is currently "we're here for a short time, so let's make it worth our while." No matter how noble it sounds to try and make the world a better place for the future, I think that the human race ultimately has to be selfish. I think it has a lot to do with individual personality, and probably in no small part to the fact that I'm young, single, and not a parent with any dependants, but I believe people should live how they choose, and if getting washed up in a television program gives them that pleasure, then why the hell not go for it. Reading can and probably will lead to a higher level of intelligence and possibly success, but it will also lead just as much to noncomplacency, scepticism, and cynicism. In the end, will you really be a happier person? |
I was young too, and I understand, but is lots of "happy" (debatable) zoned-out TV/shooter game zombies getting desensitized to violence what planet earth needs, or perhaps what the US army needs?
Anyway, not just books, I also said travel, walk in the woods
and, might I add: talk (about something real -- learn to have opinions)
You do, though.
Happy, stoned, oblivious little non-voting consumers -- not too good for this guy:
"Got ice?"
But good for this guy & his pals in the oil & weapons biz:
"WMD! Ha!"
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: September 20 2006 at 00:13 |
Bob Greece wrote:
It looks like that film was made in the seventies. Maybe it's message about TV being the only source of information for people is not so relevant now with the Internet? |
That's a classic film Bob. Lot's of Oscar nominations. Peter Finch and Faye Dunaway won. That was also one of the first films they showed on network TV unedited (ironic, huh?).
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stonebeard
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 23:59 |
Peter, I know it may seem to be a poor truth from your perspective, but the way I see it, certain people (perhaps a good majority) not caring about history, politics, news and all of these other aspects of scholarly studies isn't really a very bad thing. My outlook on life is currently "we're here for a short time, so let's make it worth our while." No matter how noble it sounds to try and make the world a better place for the future, I think that the human race ultimately has to be selfish. I think it has a lot to do with individual personality, and probably in no small part to the fact that I'm young, single, and not a parent with any dependants, but I believe people should live how they choose, and if getting washed up in a television program gives them that pleasure, then why the hell not go for it. Reading can and probably will lead to a higher level of intelligence and possibly success, but it will also lead just as much to noncomplacency, scepticism, and cynicism. In the end, will you really be a happier person?
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KoS
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 23:53 |
Great performance. Reminded me of Bill Hicks: "Go back to bed, America. Your government has figured out how it all
transpired. Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control
again. Here. Here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up. Go back
to bed, America. Here is American Gladiators. Here is 56 channels of
it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their f**king skulls together
and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go,
America! You are free to do what we tell you! You are free to do what
we tell you!"
Edited by king of Siam - September 20 2006 at 00:17
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Peter
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 23:43 |
Bob Greece wrote:
It looks like that film was made in the seventies. Maybe it's message about TV being the only source of information for people is not so relevant now with the Internet? |
Well, I'd say yes and no, Bob, but mostly no. (I think it's still very relevant -- perhaps now more than then.)
Both TV (& movies) and the Net have enormous, far-reaching potential as educational mediums, but each can be manipulated for propaganda, and with today's technology, the unreal can be made to appear very real. Worse though, I think, is what most people choose to use the Net & TV for: mindless entertainment. For every serious, fruitful discussion here (and I think this forum would actually have a higher than average intelligence level) I bet we have 50 basically pointless posts. Who turns on their computer, or TV, for the news? A small minority.
Stupidity, and mindless hard bodies and silicon breasted bimbos competing for plastic crap is what sells. Explosions. Murders. Car crashes. Torture scenes.
If anything, I think that people (at least in the West) are even more ignorant re their world and its history than when that movie was made.
Yes, the net has tremendous educational/informational potential.
But how many people use it that way, really? Most people seem to want to see pizza delivery guys getting run over. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Bread and circuses. Ignorance is bliss -- for those who prefer us to be ignorant, that is.
TV is the new opiate of the masses. The web seems to be mostly TV part two, with extra porn.
I have certainly seen young people's writing/communication ability decline since computers took over.
They still don't know who Hitler, Stalin, or Napoleon were.
The leader of the most powerful nation in the world believes that men and dinosaurs walked the earth together. We get the leaders we deserve.
Turn off the damned TV -- and the computer. Pick up a book. Travel. Walk in the woods, while they're there. Switch on your brain & THINK!
Good post Bob -- thanks! But notice how unpopular it is, and how few people seem to get the point of the clip, or can be bothered addressing the HUGE issues it raises.
Got any "who's best" or "which band sux" polls? They do very well.
Sorry for writing so much....
LOL cya alot
u r pwnd
ttyl
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Philéas
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 12:40 |
A good way to save lots of energy is to turn your television off
completely when not using it, instead of leaving it on stand by.
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Bob Greece
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 07:33 |
It looks like that film was made in the seventies. Maybe it's message about TV being the only source of information for people is not so relevant now with the Internet?
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peroxidess
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 07:25 |
very interesting made me feel very glad I no longer watch tv ... Just an hour of law and order if I have the time...
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The universe is in constant pursuit of a celestial home.
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R o V e R
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 05:10 |
wow , what a blabber mouth
yukk
but yet funny
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Bob Greece
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Posted: September 19 2006 at 04:57 |
This is an amazing performance taken from the film Network:
I just wanted to share that with you.
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