Is closing threads a good solution ...

MikeEnRegalia wrote: micky wrote: it was a good solution to close it [...] well discussed thread.  How can it be a good solution to delete a good discussion because of a few posts (if we assume that the thread remains closed, just for the sake of this discussion)? I think it's safe to assume that you don't like Progressive Sludge Metal" ... would you also agree to closing the thread if it was about a genre which you like, and if you had put a considerable amount of time into writing posts?

hmmm... how long have you been here.... I assume a hell of a lot longer than I have...


what you are in essence doing is questioning the policies of the admin team  ... GR is not the only one to close threads....  Jody is a undisputed master of it...    this should have been handled in the proper area...  you saw the thread I started in the collab area earlier in regards to the symph team.. things were said... things were resolved.. and the affected parties were able to rejoiin the area... which out having dirty laundry spread out for all to see...   as a ....whatever you are right now... I figure you would know that.. and appreciate that space where these things can be discussed.. amoung those who are involved.. ESPECIALLY when the 'guitlty' parties.. .are collabs themselves....


as far as is it a good solution... as I said before...  the thread to my eyes was wrecked and heading downhill when the terrrible twosome came in and gave not opinions but posts intended to incite and inflame.  That thread was dead the minute it happened.  Anyway in genreal... it is a commen method employed by the admin team....  if it happened to mine.. .I'd start another.. and blame not the admins or the policy.. but those who needlessly try to piss people off and destroy the threads..

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Ghost Rider wrote: OK, guys, as this discussion seems to be aimed at me mainly... No, not at all ... I've seen this numerous times on all sorts of topics, by many different admins. I just thought that maybe - by discussing the general problem - another solution can be found.

OK - this is what I would wish for too. I understand that closing the thread was a drastic measure, but believe me, it was the best solution at the time. A closed thread can be easily re-opened, while deleting posts is something that should be done with much more caution. Especially on a Sunday morning (I believe you and I are in the same time zone), when you find yourself alone in doing your task. And it's not about power trips or treating grown people like children either...

interesting.... just what the hell is' Progressive Sludge Metal' anyway 



my two cents...

thanks to Oliverstoned and Philllipes lack of maturity and ...trollish posts.. the thread was lost.... the thread was descending into the abyss of name calling and bad feelings..

it was a good solution to close it  and words need to be said to those who needless and maliciously bait .... I've been guilty of wrecking a few threads in my time...  but in sense of fun and always with  threads that were retreads or pure joke threads in the first place. This... to those who listen to 'Progressive Slude Metal' was a serious meaningful and up to Olivestones entry in it..  well discussed thread. 

MikeEnRegalia wrote: ... if people invade the threads, posting abusive, insulting and off-topic comments? I mean, by closing the thread the ultimate goal is reached: destroying the discussion. The closing of the prog metal categories thread is what made me ask this question ... maybe we can come up with a better solution for such problems. I don't mean to criticise the admins - they have to do *something*.

possibly but don't you think this would be better served being discussed by everyone ...including the parties directly involved in private.... or where it should be.. in the collab areas... much like the symphonic schism we endured... some things are best handled not in public but behind closed doors.   I haven't seen the thread yet...I tend to say away from anything PM related hahahah... but my curiousity is aroused .

being one of the people that got involved (phillipe called all metalheads, pigheads..i'm thinking of changing my nickname to Metalpig - The Filthy Power) i have to say 2 things:

1.for the few months that i have been posting replies, it was the first time sth like that happened to me and not that easy to let it go if someone calls you names...i tried to answer with humour but it didn't work...
2.Ghost Rider, it seems as if you check all the forums only to see if you can close them.. we are big boys you know... we can work it out... you didn't have to do this..

Hmppff. I just started a thread on the topic discussed here (too soon, shoud've checked). Guess it would be Ok to close that one: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28401

Basically, my suggestion there is in line with Jimbo and Ricos.

Angelo




Edited by Angelo - September 10 2006 at 07:43

As my maths (Australian spelling has an ‘S’ on the end) teacher would say, just ask who ever the abuser is to stop before taking any serious actions.

 

MikeEnRegalia wrote: ... if people invade the threads, posting abusive, insulting and off-topic comments? I mean, by closing the thread the ultimate goal is reached: destroying the discussion.The closing of the prog metal categories thread is what made me ask this question ... maybe we can come up with a better solution for such problems. I don't mean to criticise the admins - they have to do *something*.

    

Our goal was not to destroy the discussion (we don't care about it) but to protest about something that we consider abusive:
including non-prog bands into a site which is said to be dedicated to progressive music.

It would also be a good idea if everyone just ignored Philippe's posts, but I guess that will happen sooner or later. How many people still take his "take" on Metal seriously?

OK, guys, as this discussion seems to be aimed at me mainly...

1. Please re-read what I wrote before locking the thread, and you'll see that I am speaking of a temporary closure;

2. I or the others report the fact to the other Admins, so that a common decision can be reached;

3. it does not seem very correct to me doing such a thing as opening a thread to discuss my decisions (or those of anybody else) in the public forum, when there is a Collabs section or PMs to be used for this purpose.

Just my two cents, as always...

Edit: I posted this before Rico posted his own message. Please, re-read the discussion, and see that I would've had to delete half of it... Is this what you really want?


Edited by Ghost Rider - September 10 2006 at 06:57