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Points: 1907 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2006 at 20:24
Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by The Lost Chord The Lost Chord wrote:

some abstract instrument like a Sitar (rarely used outside of prog in that time)
 
Errrrm... depends which country you live in, mate.
 
My point is that in the mid 60's, early 60's there was not much music with flutes and sitars merging rock music...hence it being abstract in the late 60's and 70's, and termed progressive rock, along with synths and even more abstract sounds and styles.i think that is a fact, prove me wrong.
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I have heard all the arguments about prog, what is/isn't, but i can't get my head around Ruish being prog. i've got a few of their albums (alleged prog) but i just don't see it. They are not a bad band, but are, in fact, a very good rock band. How they are prog, depends on where you stand on music. There are so many bands on here that never ever aspire to prog rock, but are assimillated into this genre just to please the current audience.
 
Peolpe want the Beatles in here and other ridiculous bands.  I say no.
 
I noted that NME readers voted Oasis (loud laugh) best ever UK album, followed buy the appalling Sargeants Pepper album next, Dark side of the moon wasn't in the top 5. Each to their own, but SP was the first, but one of the worst concept albums ever.
 
 
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Originally posted by The Lost Chord The Lost Chord wrote:

some abstract instrument like a Sitar (rarely used outside of prog in that time)
 
Errrrm... depends which country you live in, mate.
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Points: 5964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2006 at 11:35
Originally posted by Viajero Astral Viajero Astral wrote:

This maybe can help to, its from "The School of Rock" movie






You can see "Prog Rock" in the right
 
Do I spy "Residents" in amongst the prog list, eh? Nice one.
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lol this is ridiculous, you people really dont know why this music is called progressive rock?
 
In the late 60's the type of music you see here under "proto-prog" and some of the bigs like YES, Genesis, King Crimson and such were all given the name "progressive music" because it worked in describing the style.  Music was life back then, and these guys were playing music that would appear "progressive" or more advanced then, say, a beatles record from the early 60's.
 
Its really quite simple, the name for this music stuck back then and has stayed ever since...even with all of its ridiculous changes ( neo prog).  But the name works, King Crimson, Moody Blues, YES< Genesis, BJH, ELP...all of these bands were bouncing off of eachother in the world of prog rock...it was a style, get yourself a mellotron and your INSTANTLY prog, just because your using an electric keyboard mixed with electric guitar, drums and maybe some abstract instrument like a Sitar (rarely used outside of prog in that time) or even the flute!  mixed with rock music the flute was seen as progressive....moving forward toward something, perhaps, may seem now like "what did they mean!?!? what exactly were they moving forward to??"...but in the late 60's there was no question, this was clearly moving SOMEWHERE it was different, so whats so hard about "Progressive Rock".
 
It may not work today for some of the stuff that has tried to fit into it, but that names existence is there for a pretty simple reason, its not that hard to comprehend.
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Who coined the phrase "progressive rock"?

You should ask him. (I guess it was a male.)
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Prog is like a box of chocolates.  You never know what you're gonna get.
 
I like that definition Shocked
 
I allways see Prog as an Electric Translation of Classical Music!
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prog to me is something other than

verse 1-5
chorus
verse 6-10
guitar solo
chorus
ending

you know, something that's a bit more complicated and interesting :D
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It is music that rambles. 
Also, it gives us that feeling you get when you are atop hills of yesterday, vewing the silence of the valley. 
 
 
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Originally posted by Speakerfish Speakerfish wrote:

Progressive Rock: The Other White Beat
 
dont really understand,, what is the other white beat? Confused

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Progressive Rock: The Other White Beat
Dissonance; subtle harmonic dissonance
Contemplating and completing the negative space
Romantic symphonies left on the floodplains
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Originally posted by Hierophant Hierophant wrote:

Prog has nothing to do with rock really - if bands like tangerine dream are prog then obviously it can't have anything to do with rock or genres/styles. It's complexity - the simplest way I can put it.

That's why bands like Meshuggah are in the archives. What do they have in common with Yes & Genesis? - complexity. It comes in sorts of shapes and sizes.




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http://www.netkushi.com/movie-stills/albums/h-movie-stills/The-School-of-Rock-movie-stills/normal_The-School-of-Rock-movie-wallpaper-8.jpg

theres another view of it.
"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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Points: 1930 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2006 at 23:08
Originally posted by Viajero Astral Viajero Astral wrote:

This maybe can help to, its from "The School of Rock" movie






You can see "Prog Rock" in the right
I like how Zappa, Captain Beefheart and Can are in the ? section
"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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Points: 2450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2006 at 22:02

^ somewhat i agree, but why its called progressive rock??

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Prog has nothing to do with rock really - if bands like tangerine dream are prog then obviously it can't have anything to do with rock or genres/styles. It's complexity - the simplest way I can put it.

That's why bands like Meshuggah are in the archives. What do they have in common with Yes & Genesis? - complexity. It comes in sorts of shapes and sizes.




Edited by Hierophant - June 08 2006 at 21:59
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Progressive rock is misnomen, it should be called "sophisticated rock" or "complex rock" instead. It was hardly progressive even back in time of 1970's because as we already commented mainstream persons like Lennon and Harrison hade gone much deeper into avantguarde in their experiments in late 60's than progressive bands of the time.

Progressive rock is strongly limited with its rock component. You cannot go really far and insist to stay in the rock genre.


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Points: 2450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2006 at 19:12
LIFE  is prog

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prog is LIFE
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Points: 760 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2006 at 18:28
Originally posted by Viajero Astral Viajero Astral wrote:

This maybe can help to, its from "The School of Rock" movie






You can see "Prog Rock" in the right


If only it listen some more then 70s prog, coz theres a lot more then that.
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