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sigod
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 17 2004 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 2779 |
Posted: December 13 2004 at 07:12 |
You're onto a losing streak here mate. No-one hails the worth of a good drummer and to get the rest of a band to consider the stick-man as a fellow musician would be a miracle. I know from personal experience and it's why I switched to guitar . For what it's worth you are part of an elite group and prog would be lost without you |
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
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mikedevilsfan
Forum Newbie Joined: November 20 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 37 |
Posted: December 12 2004 at 06:41 |
Woah Woah woah, slow down there children. As a prog Drummer I can honestly say that it's harder to find a bassist and a singer tan a drummer, no question. Take it from a guy who has searched high and low for non flakes, it goes both way. I also do some of the aranging (for all you non musician jokesters out there). Michael |
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arcer
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 01 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1239 |
Posted: December 10 2004 at 17:38 |
trouble was that one of the one who could write also wanted to write the music and insisted on wasting hours in rehearsals tapping away at piano keys in the search for the notes that were in his addled head but not within his ambit as a pianist. Being a good guitar player/singer/ego-maniac I fired him.... |
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Certif1ed
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Posted: December 10 2004 at 15:26 |
As Oscar Wilde might have said; "To know one good drummer is very fortunate. To know two is greedy." |
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sigod
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Posted: December 10 2004 at 08:14 |
Finding a great drummer is like finding a pair of lesbians who are willing to help you with your amateur pole dancing documentary.
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: December 10 2004 at 03:15 |
Had that offer come from someone used to drinking good old British real-ale, it would have been tempting. However, what you fail to grasp, Peter, is that the beer has to be good quality pre-regurgitation, not the fermented moose milk you routinely imbibe. The standard practice for disposal of - how can I put this - collonial beer vomit is to strain it, allow it to clarify, fizz it up again, then sell it to Australia, labelled as 'Fosters'. |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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arcer
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 01 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1239 |
Posted: December 09 2004 at 16:28 |
A psychologist wants to undertake research into IQs and professions so posts a message in various places asking for volunteers to come and tell her what jobs they do. The first to arrive at the office is striking looking woman in a sharp business suit. "What's your IQ" asks the psych. "145" says the woman. "Oh, impressive and your job?" "Brain surgeon." "Very good, thanks" says the woman. this is a repeared several times with varying results, "150 - Astrophysicist", "140 - trial lawyer" etc until a rather disreputable figure with lank greasy hair and pizza on his sweater walks through the door. "So," says the psych. "What's your IQ" "Duuuuhhhhhhhhh 75," says the ne'er-do-well. "I see. So.... what sticks do you use?" |
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arcer
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Posted: December 09 2004 at 16:24 |
why are good drummers so rare? Because they can never remember the way to the rehearsal room, or indeed, occasionally the name of the band they are in. Actually, I had the good fortune to play with a number of excellent drummers, two of whom could actually write!!!! I consider myself blessed |
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sigod
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Posted: December 09 2004 at 06:08 |
Life imitating art. Remember Jeff Porcaro of Toto who really DID die in a bizzare gardening accident. Allergic reaction to some weed killer I'm told. Poor bastard.
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: December 08 2004 at 22:54 |
Peter Beer? Hahahhahahahahhahahhaa. Sorry. Bwhahahahhahahahahhahahaaa |
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Peter
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Posted: December 08 2004 at 22:24 |
^ HA! Next time I o'erindulge, and puke beer through my nose (very, very, VERY rare occurance, these last 15 or so years, thank cod!), I'll save it in a bucket for all you British "real ale" drinkers, and fans of bottle-conditioned brews.... "Re-fermented in bucket -- contents will be naturally cloudy." Mmmmmmm! Lumpy! |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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James Lee
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Posted: December 08 2004 at 21:51 |
^ that may be the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. And I listen to talk radio!
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Wizard/TRueStar
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Posted: December 08 2004 at 20:30 |
You know some one really died from choking on someone elses vomit:
On 7 March 2002, the Saskatoon StarPhoenix in Saskatchewan, Canada, citing witnesses inside the Pine Grove Correctional Centre, reported that some female ex-heroin addicts so desperately crave methadone that they routinely consume the fresh vomit of fellow inmates currently on methadone treatment because enough is still present in the regurgitation. The newspaper uncovered the practice while investigating the death of an inmate. Said a source, "The whole building knows (that the inmate choked on vomit). That's how she died." —from News of the Weird, compiled by Chuck Shepherd |
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Reed Lover
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Posted: December 08 2004 at 17:20 |
Spinal Tap A to ZedChilds, Eric "Stumpy Joe" (1945-1974): Former Wool Cave drummer became Tap’s second drummer in 1969 after John "Stumpy" Pepys died in a bizarre gardening accident. Derek remembers Childs as having "big hands, big feet, big heart. Small lips. Thin hair. Big ears. That really says it all." (IST) Childs would perform on four Tap albums before choking to death on someone else’s vomit in 1974. Who produced the vomit remains shrouded in mystery. Nigel: "You can’t really dust for vomit." Inexplicably, the band would later claim he died of a melanin overdose. (STR) And even later, when asked about the investigation into Childs' death, Derek reported: "Last we heard, they had conducted DNA tests on [the vomit]. The only results to get back to us was that, on closer analysis, it may not have been vomit." (PB) An early Tap session drummer, Childs played on "(Listen to the) Flower People" b/w "Rainy Day Sun," although he didn’t join the group officially until 1969. LOL |
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Certif1ed
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Posted: December 08 2004 at 16:38 |
...and Eric "Stumpy Joe" Childs, whose cause of death was (officially) choking on vomit. Off the record, of course, it's not clear whose vomit it was... |
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sigod
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Posted: December 08 2004 at 10:30 |
And don't forget old Stumpy Peeps, who died in a bizzare gardening accident.
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
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Man Erg
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Posted: December 08 2004 at 06:01 |
Another reason that they are so rare is their tendancy to spontainiously combust! |
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
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sigod
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Posted: December 08 2004 at 05:06 |
Okay, bit of an admission here, I've played both guitar and drums (although not at the same time ) in prog and non-prog bands for about a decade. It can be a real pain having to cart all the drums around (first to arrive, last to leave is the old joke) but let me tell you...I get more female attention as a drummer than I ever do as a guitarist/singer. Maybe it's something about the physicality of playing or the ablitity to pound out a rhythm that attracts 'em . British women, who knows??
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
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StarvingArtyst
Forum Groupie Joined: November 10 2004 Status: Offline Points: 71 |
Posted: December 08 2004 at 03:31 |
It's all about getting the chicks. Guitarists get women, vocalists get women. Drummers.....well, not so much.
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Get on your feet and do the Funky Alphonso
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Jim Garten
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Posted: December 08 2004 at 03:22 |
Its probably a problem of logistics - If you have a guitar or bass guitar, these can be propped up in the corner of the room by their amp (Marshall or Trace Elliot, of course!) - as soon as the muse strikes, up it comes, and you're playing; to an extent, it is the same with keyboards (even my Hammond set up).
With a drum kit, you are talking about a large amount of space needed, and the difficulty of not having volume controls..... Given the above then, far fewer people actually take up drums/percussion, hence the lack of drummers when you need one. And now the drummer jokes... |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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