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richardh 
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 Posted: November 26 2004 at 18:49 |
 Peter Rideout wrote:
richardh wrote:
Peter Rideout wrote:
richardh wrote:
The Nice 'Ars Longa Vita Brevis'-1968.Keith Emerson,Lee Jackson,Brian Davison and Davy O'List were doing prog before Fripp and his chums. |
Arrrrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!!
"Pop!" 
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Don't be daft. |
No no, not "pop" as in pop music, "pop!" as in the vein in my forehead bursting!
(That's why I put the word in quotation marks. Print can be a less-than-adequate medium for communication....)
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Sorry,I'm a thicko.Stop trying to be so subtle!
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Reed Lover
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:25 |
[Dunno -- he seems to have sashayed away in a fit of pique.... ]
Nah he went to relatives for Thanksgiving then mentioned a talking tour (or something like that) of The Great White North.
Be afraid, be very afraid................
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:25 |
Sorry for highjacking yer thread, Cert! 
Again, folks: What was the first prog album, & why
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:23 |
 Dunno -- he seems to have sashayed away in a fit of pique....
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:22 |
A million nicknames from a million students and not one has ever called you Mr Wood!
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Reed Lover
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:20 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
See the edit in that one too! |
I'm sure greg would simply love to be your head fluffer!
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:18 |
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See the edit in that one too!
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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DallasBryan
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:17 |
I would agree, Frank was probably first! I have
some old tapes from early early 60s recorded in
bars on the west coast and frank was already doing
it before the summer of love was ever invisioned.
Got my respect, which aint much 
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Reed Lover
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:17 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
^ See the edit in my above post, Dead Mother.... |
Your the one who keeps a close eye on Gdub's grammar!
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:15 |
^ See the edit in my above post, Dead Mother....
BTW, I'll bet you don't know what a "fluffer" is, do you, you gormless innocent?
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:10 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Absolutely right!
Searching for the "first" prog album will be as fruitless as searching for the evolutionary missing link-it doesnt exist.
Mind you Peter, I cannot for the life of me understand why you get your pampered knickers in a twist everytime someone misses your clumsy attempt at whimsy!
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My "knickers" were untwisted, until NOW, Head Fluffer!
The anger was feigned -- yet more clumsy whimsy.
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Doh!
I knew, I knew !
Now put your face straight or it will stop like that!
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:10 |
Joren wrote:
Peter Rideout wrote:
Yep Cert: ITCOTCK
All others need not apply.
Case closed.
Move along now!
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How hard is it? Case closed? How many times do I have to say it? 
<FONT size=7>FREAK OUT!
It's the oldest album listed in the Archives. It's the first album by the genius Frank Zappa. It's the first album to combine rock with avant-garde. The songs may not all be progressive, but the record as a whole IS.
Case closed! 
(hey, I'm serious)   |
I have to agree with that.
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:09 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Absolutely right!
Searching for the "first" prog album will be as fruitless as searching for the evolutionary missing link-it doesnt exist.
Mind you Peter, I cannot for the life of me understand why you get your pampered knickers in a twist everytime someone misses your clumsy attempt at whimsy!
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My "knickers" were untwisted, until NOW, Head Fluffer!
The anger was feigned -- yet more clumsy whimsy.
'Tis Fryday, and I've a brace of bottles of Monty Python's Holy Grail (ale), from over your way (Blacksheep Brewery) chilling in my fridge.... Want one? 
Edited by Peter Rideout
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 17:04 |
Absolutely right!
Searching for the "first" prog album will be as fruitless as searching for the evolutionary missing link-it doesnt exist.
Mind you Peter, I cannot for the life of me understand why you get your pampered knickers in a twist everytime someone misses your clumsy attempt at whimsy!
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Peter
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 16:52 |
Of course, if prog "evolved," there really was no definitive "first" prog album....
Sorry, but I think that the question is kind of pointless, comrade Cert. I think that the best you can hope for is a list of multiple proto-prog "firsts."
Edited by Peter Rideout
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Peter
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 16:49 |
Garion81 wrote:
Peter Rideout wrote:
Easy Livin wrote:
Just to stir things up a bit, I'll go with "Shine on brightly" by Procol Harum, which includes the magnificent "In held 'twas in I".
Prog didn't suddenly arrive overnight of course, it evolved. I reckon "SoB" was the first complete prog album though.
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 Wrong wrong WRONG Breezy!
Prog sprang fully-formed, from the head of Zeus/Fripp, with ITCOTCK!
Prior to that, all was formless darkness.
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I totally disagree. Prog Progressed through quite a few related events that culminated with ITCOTCK and others of that year and the next. 
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Wasn't it obvious that I was joking? Of COURSE prog, like all forms of music, EVOLVED.
Duh!
(Evolved from the Monkees, I hear....)
I don't effing know what effing album was the effing first effing prog album! (I was only 7 or 8 years old!) -- I leave that to more "seasoned" & informed souls, like Maani "the Word" Alterman, Dick "I was there" Heath, and Queasy "I'm Scottish" Liver.
Now Cert: Definitively define "prog," please....
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Joren
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 16:40 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Yep Cert: ITCOTCK
All others need not apply.
Case closed.
Move along now!
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How hard is it? Case closed? How many times do I have to say it?
FREAK OUT!
It's the oldest album listed in the Archives. It's the first album by the genius Frank Zappa. It's the first album to combine rock with avant-garde. The songs may not all be progressive, but the record as a whole IS.
Case closed!
(hey, I'm serious)
Edited by Joren
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 16:38 |
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Peter
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 16:37 |
richardh wrote:
Peter Rideout wrote:
richardh wrote:
The Nice 'Ars Longa Vita Brevis'-1968.Keith Emerson,Lee Jackson,Brian Davison and Davy O'List were doing prog before Fripp and his chums. |
Arrrrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!!
"Pop!"
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Don't be daft. |
No no, not "pop" as in pop music, "pop!" as in the vein in my forehead bursting!
(That's why I put the word in quotation marks. Print can be a less-than-adequate medium for communication....)
Edited by Peter Rideout
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: November 26 2004 at 16:30 |
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