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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2006 at 11:03

Originally posted by Paulieg Paulieg wrote:

Hmmmmmm!!!!!!

Hmmm, indeed. Perhaps they would have sounded more like Marillion!!!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2006 at 10:54
Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

There certainly wouldn't be A Trick Of The Tail ! Gabriel wouldn't let that happen: too retrogressive. No Wind And Wuthering either, for the same reason.

I think more experimental stuff, because Gabriel and Hackett were more adventurous. Maybe some help from Robert Fripp, because on the Lamb they started with Eno. More single albums instead of double albums, I'm sure. Melodic, but adventurous. Also soundwise.

 

I disagree!!!! I think Wind and Wuthering would have been the direction they would have taken. Certainly the best would have been yet to come! I think Gabriel left at least two albums too soon! They left unfinnished buisness & never made a true masterpiece IMO but they certainly had the capability to do so, it just might have taken them another couple of albums to achieve it!

 

Who in the classic prog era made a true masterpiece? Most of the albums have strong points and weak points, added songs or elongated passages. Supper's Ready comes the closest to anything in classic prog being a masterpiece.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2006 at 10:48

Assuming that Gabriel would still have discovered "world music", they probably would have gone in that direction.

(Isn't "world music" kind of a half-assed term?)

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2006 at 10:39
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

There certainly wouldn't be A Trick Of The Tail ! Gabriel wouldn't let that happen: too retrogressive. No Wind And Wuthering either, for the same reason.

I think more experimental stuff, because Gabriel and Hackett were more adventurous. Maybe some help from Robert Fripp, because on the Lamb they started with Eno. More single albums instead of double albums, I'm sure. Melodic, but adventurous. Also soundwise.

 

I disagree!!!! I think Wind and Wuthering would have been the direction they would have taken. Certainly the best would have been yet to come! I think Gabriel left at least two albums too soon! They left unfinnished buisness & never made a true masterpiece IMO but they certainly had the capability to do so, it just might have taken them another couple of albums to achieve it!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2006 at 10:32
The world would have been a much more proggier place.

The sound would have evolved SOOOOOOOOO much, I mean just see the leap from Nursery Cryme to Foxtrot to Selling England to the Lamb. They sounded so much different by the Lamb. Just imagine the sound should they have continued.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2006 at 10:31

Got me!    Oh, but if it were true... 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2006 at 09:53
I'm glad they left to be honest. Cos what we have now is a bonaaa fiiidee treasure untarnished by later tamperings of the record companies as they gained more power over the high profile artist..
Duke being a good example of that...phew....
shouldn't get too annoyed itz saturday & i'm listenin to mike oldfield.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2006 at 09:30
Ok...and your smoking what now?¿?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2006 at 06:33

Originally posted by Paulieg Paulieg wrote:

Hmmmmmm!!!!!!

I second that.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2006 at 05:52
Just listen to THE WATCH.They sound exactly as if Peter and Steve stayed in the band - complicated,sometimes CRIMSON/ANGLAGARD-related music...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2006 at 16:35

There certainly wouldn't be A Trick Of The Tail ! Gabriel wouldn't let that happen: too retrogressive. No Wind And Wuthering either, for the same reason.

I think more experimental stuff, because Gabriel and Hackett were more adventurous. Maybe some help from Robert Fripp, because on the Lamb they started with Eno. More single albums instead of double albums, I'm sure. Melodic, but adventurous. Also soundwise.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2006 at 16:20
I think if Hackett and Gabriel stayed instead of leaving the band, Genesis would sound like a mix between SH's 70's solo albums, 76-77 era Genesis and earlier Genesis with a touch of PG's solo albums!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2006 at 16:17
Hmmmmmm!!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2006 at 16:15

Would we still have had "Invisible Touch" or "Whodunnit" ?

Obviously, the band would have had to change in the 80's- probably nothing along the lines of "Supper's Ready" or "Firth of Fifth." Could they have been as big or bigger than the Pop Genesis of the 80's ?

My alternative universe:

Gabriel leaves after TLLDOB, Hacket leaves after WAW, the band continues on with ATTWT and Duke, but then it diverges from our universe... Phil Collins solo album flops. Discouraged, he decides he doesn't want to sing anymore, he'll stick to drums. Meanwhile, Peter Gabriel isn't doing well with his solo career, and when the band asks him back, he says yes. Steve Hackett is eager to get back into a band and when asked by Steve Howe to form a new band, decides instead to go back to Genesis. Even so, the reformed Genesis releases a few so-so albums until they release the critically acclaimed theatrical double album "Invisible Touch" in 1986. The band becomes the band of the 80's and breaks up on the top of their game...

 

Fire up the flux capacitor ! We're taking this Delorean through all four dimensions.

What is the future of prog ? Genesis reunion ? I'm not telling!That could upset the thyme/space continuum.
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