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Points: 446 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2006 at 10:41
Originally posted by arnold stirrup arnold stirrup wrote:

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I could never understand why an excellent drummer like Steve Gadd wasted his talents on them.

I saw SG play with Dan, as well as with Paul Simon. Never thought his talents were wasted with either. Matter of fact, he was an excellent fit for both.

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agreed . . His solo on Aja is classic, esp with that stick click.  He also wrote that legendary intro for Fifty Ways to Leave Your Lover.  Simon is one of the great American songwriters of the last fifty years.  He was a Brill Building hack before returing to his old school mate, what was his name Garfunkel or something. Gadd is also on the S and G live from Central Park video. Anyway I wish I could have wasted my talents with either SD of PS.
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I had always thought of Steely Dan as a rock band with smooth jazz influences. Their compositions are interesting, lyrics insightful and musicianship impeccable, both technically and emotionally. Would I recommend a fellow prog lover to listen to Steely Dan? Absolutely. I vote for their inclusion.
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Steely Dan would apply in my opinion, listen to The Royal Scam album excellent.
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Points: 293 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2006 at 09:58
I really like Steely Dan.  I haven't really considered their progressiveness though.
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2006 at 09:46
Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

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its unbelievable that Steely Dan are not on this site considering some of the tripe that gets in  (off the record I`m starting to think that some people around here are losing the plot)



well Air-Mac why don't you educate those of us... who have lost the plot, how Steely Dan are considered prog.  Unless you plan on including every group that happens to have jazz influences. We have a saying here in the South... two wrongs don't make a right....
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2006 at 09:39
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

its unbelievable that Steely Dan are not on this site considering some of the tripe that gets in  (off the record I`m starting to think that some people around here are losing the plot)



well Air-Mac why don't you educate those of us... who have lost the plot, how Steely Dan are considered prog.  Unless you plan on including every group that happens to have jazz influences. We have a saying here in the South... two wrongs don't make a right....
 
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Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

its unbelievable that Steely Dan are not on this site considering some of the tripe that gets in  (off the record I`m starting to think that some people around here are losing the plot)



well Air-Mac why don't you educate those of us... who have lost the plot, how Steely Dan are considered prog.  Unless you plan on including every group that happens to have jazz influences. We have a saying here in the South... two wrongs don't make a right....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2006 at 09:26
its unbelievable that Steely Dan are not on this site considering some of the tripe that gets in  (off the record I`m starting to think that some people around here are losing the plot)
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2006 at 09:23
Originally posted by arnold stirrup arnold stirrup wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I could never understand why an excellent drummer like Steve Gadd wasted his talents on them.

I saw SG play with Dan, as well as with Paul Simon. Never thought his talents were wasted with either. Matter of fact, he was an excellent fit for both.



couldn't agree more... they aren't prog... but Steely Dan was IMO was the finest groups of the 70's.
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I could never understand why an excellent drummer like Steve Gadd wasted his talents on them.

I saw SG play with Dan, as well as with Paul Simon. Never thought his talents were wasted with either. Matter of fact, he was an excellent fit for both.

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I never considered Steely Dan to be prog either. They are very poppy, and I could never understand why an excellent drummer like Steve Gadd wasted his talents on them.


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very professional and aptmusicians and studio rats (never a group as such in their heydays)

lovely arrangement and one of the best AOR , imho, and super slick sound

 

but I would not call them prog even if they were also influenced by jazz

 
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Points: 19 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2006 at 06:03
i knew you were gonna say that...

doesn't jazz rock sub genre kinda fall under prog? like gong, soft machine...i dont know.
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Well I wouldn't say that Steely Dan has done as much for rock music as the Beatles have, that's a really huge stretch, and also you have to remember that the Beatles were around for a decade before Steely Dan hit the scene.   But nonetheless Steely Dan rocks although it's not prog at all.  Just because they were more influenced by jazz doesn't mean they're progressive rock, they're just light, jazzy elevator rock.  My favorite Steely Dan tunes are Aja, Hey Nineteen, and Rikki Don't Lose that Number. 


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Points: 19 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2006 at 05:09
seems like they are more progressive than some bands on here(the beatles)

yet they aren't listed on this site...oh well, they are one of my fav bands regardless. what do you guys think? anybody like steely dan?

my favorite songs are probably, reelin in the years, josie, my old school, and my all time fav deacon blues
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