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Reed Lover
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Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:09 |
We used to award 100 points if you could knock down an old dear, when i was a boy racer!
Oh no offence intended 3F8T's
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Reed Lover
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Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:06 |
danbo wrote:
Before long, we'll all be eating Soilent Green. That's why I had "Eat Me" tattooed on my arse.
Speed laws are to blame. Being alert and cautious, as well as reducing speed in highly travelled deer crossing areas really makes a difference. About one third of the deer/auto accidents I'm familiar with could have been avoided. Believe me, I've seen about two a week in just over five years. People forget that the animals were there long before we came on the scene.
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Beat me to it.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:05 |
gdub411 wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Are we saying that deer should be culled because they are inconvenient?
I find hunting for sport to be barbaric in the sense that it I can find no justification for anyone to kill anything senselessly. However as long as the hunting is for food eg not just for a trophy,then I cant really muster a valid argument against it.
I think vegetarians are just as pathetic as hunters.
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When a family plows into a deer that stepped out onto the highway at 65 mph and their son or daughter flies through the windshield I will be sure to let them know we couldn't keep the deer population down just because it was an "inconvenience"
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I am absolutely certain that if this "family" had been wearing seat belts they would NOT have gone through the windshield!
BTW I am pretty certain that I drive well enough not to hit anything on the roads. Greg you should not be reading "Playgirl" whilst driving your van!
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:02 |
Before long, we'll all be eating Soilent Green. That's why I had "Eat Me" tattooed on my arse.
Speed laws are to blame. Being alert and cautious, as well as reducing speed in highly travelled deer crossing areas really makes a difference. About one third of the deer/auto accidents I'm familiar with could have been avoided. Believe me, I've seen about two a week in just over five years. People forget that the animals were there long before we came on the scene.
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threefates
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Posted: October 18 2004 at 17:53 |
We have had a big problem in New Jersey also with deers causing really bad car accidents. One reason I love the City... if my subway hits a deer, I'll never feel it...
However I was in Australia a couple of years ago when they had open season on killing kangeroos... that was not nice... and some of the restaurants were serving kangeroo burgers...
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gdub411
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Posted: October 18 2004 at 17:26 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Are we saying that deer should be culled because they are inconvenient?
I find hunting for sport to be barbaric in the sense that it I can find no justification for anyone to kill anything senselessly. However as long as the hunting is for food eg not just for a trophy,then I cant really muster a valid argument against it.
I think vegetarians are just as pathetic as hunters.
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When a family plows into a deer that stepped out onto the highway at 65 mph and their son or daughter flies through the windshield I will be sure to let them know we couldn't keep the deer population down just because it was an "inconvenience"
All over the midwest we have restaurants adorned with animal trophies on the walls so it is pretty much the norm here. There's a particular pizza place that has this squirrel armed with a bow and arrow up on a shelf...that one is my favorite...that's what I call CLASS.
Actually I belong to PETA
P...People
E...Eating
T...Tasty
A...Animals
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: October 18 2004 at 16:52 |
One must always eat what they hunt, right girls?
Actually, in the US, I'm not sure about other countries, deer and some other native animals are hunted, by PERMIT, in order to keep the populations under control. When there is over-population, many deer (and others) starve due to limited food availability. The permits are issued on the basis of the animal population. Deer are not hunted merely because they are an inconvience.
I totally abhor trophy hunting or fishing.
Do vegetarians taste like salad?
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Reed Lover
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Posted: October 18 2004 at 16:39 |
Are we saying that deer should be culled because they are inconvenient?
I find hunting for sport to be barbaric in the sense that it I can find no justification for anyone to kill anything senselessly. However as long as the hunting is for food eg not just for a trophy,then I cant really muster a valid argument against it.
I think vegetarians are just as pathetic as hunters.
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will
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Posted: October 18 2004 at 16:30 |
Firstly, im glad to see you peter i havent read one of your tantelising post for a while and it warms my heart to hear from you (over the top but you get the point). Its also great to see you have returned my Reedlover, i for one am glad your back.
I don't have much to say on the subject of this debate as i have never posessed a gun and will hopefully never feel the need to. I f u really need to protect your self you can buy perfecly good knives or even better pepper spray. I personally own thrrowing knives but never carry them in public (well... sometimes). I would rather see all guns destroyed (thers nothing like a bit of medeival combat (joke). Seriously i would like guns to be banned but i also realise this is not possible.Guns could be banned but so many people own them that is it possible to make sure every gun is returned.
Its human nature to want to kill someone every now and again but its the ability to override these thaughts that makes us rationable and not complete psychos. However some people are complete psychos for watevere reason (parenting, disabliity, peer pressure etc). My point is that the blame for the crime must fall on th eperson who commits it. So guns do kill people but only because people make them. The guns have no choice in the matter and cant give much defense in court. For this reason the responsibilty is for the gun carrier to make sure it isnt misused.
I see taht both sides of the debate present a good argument but im in favour of the less guns the better. Now lets roll a joint and sing along to "leave it" (YES).
Guys nad gals never forget "A real froob knows where his towel is"
IM WELL AWARE OF THE SPELLING MISTAKES AND AM TO LAZY TO CORRECT THEM LOL
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Long live progression.
Will
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: October 18 2004 at 16:28 |
Pretty interesting article. While I lived in the Sierra foothills, my wife, my father in law and one daughter each nailed a deer. They caused quite a bit of damage.
I hit one bear, nicked the hind quarters, no damage to my vehicle or the bear.
I've had numerous close calls, but never actually connected. I was hit by a deer once. It ran into my driver side door. The expression on it's face was very comical. Again, no damage.
Now, a venison stew, ah, I'm salivating... I lived in Upper Michigan for a few years and venison was a staple. Cooked properly, it's very good. Oh yeah, Ted Nugent had a camp in a town called "Rock" smack dab in the middle of the peninsula.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: October 18 2004 at 14:48 |
gdub411 wrote:
Do you guys have such deer over population problems in your country where it starts killing your motorists in a big way because they unexpectantly step out onto a highway? We do in Wisconsin. ) |
I've still no wish to enter this debate.
You might find this article interesting though GDUB.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3722704.stm
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threefates
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Posted: October 17 2004 at 21:15 |
I don't know, Danbo.. I've always preferred my metal warm...
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: October 17 2004 at 21:14 |
I've never pulled my weapon out in anger. Now, in love, is a totally different thing!
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threefates
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Posted: October 17 2004 at 21:10 |
Reed Lover wrote:
The right to bear arms....
The Constitution has to be put into historical context.When the Constitution was put in place the USA was a far more civilised place.
FUNNY ISNT IT?
All you Yanks defending the right to bear arms but not giving a fig for
FREEDOM OF SPEECH
OLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Evidently we Yanks really appreciate the "Freedom of Speech" law... afterall you'r still alive, aren't ya ??
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gdub411
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Posted: October 17 2004 at 20:40 |
Reed Lover said:What first drew you to A Larger Bowel ?
Somehow I missed this question. Mind games sir Reed Lover..mind games
It's supposed to be a half planet...ya think I should change it? I've kind of warmed up to it now.
By the way...did you resolve those issues?
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Paradox
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Posted: October 17 2004 at 20:29 |
smashed bottle???
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Peter
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Posted: October 17 2004 at 20:11 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Thanks Peter, we make a good mutual admiration society!
Whoops! I gushed girlishly over your reviews before, didn't I? I tend to get yourself and the well-seasoned Dick Heath (Heath/McBeath -- Good grief!) mixed up!
Not so much spare time as miss-spent I think. I really should fix that hole in the roof from last year sometime!
Yes, do that, and buy a dictionary to look up the spelling of words like "misspent," too!
Now: Let the great Internet Progressive Rock Firearms Ownership Debate rage on! On one side, the well-armed, Redcoat and deer-fearing Americans, on the other, the out-gunned (but feisty) smashed-bottle Brits (there's no guns in this gentlemen's bout....) and clog-wearing, "man-purse"-sporting Europeans.
Oy! Such slaughter! What a senseless waste of human life....
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: October 17 2004 at 17:04 |
Thanks Peter, we make a good mutual admiration society!
Not so much spare time as miss-spent I think. I really should fix that hole in the roof from last year sometime!
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Peter
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Posted: October 17 2004 at 16:26 |
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I started this post because its something i am interested about. Living in England, where guns are not readily available to everyone, i find the contrast between English and American law fascinating. It wasn't my intention to "poison" any atmosphere at all. I find your outspoken comments annoyings and pointless. Leave my bladder and bowel problems out of this. As others have said before me, if you dont want to get upset by the opinions of other people, and dont feel you can rationally debate a subject which many people have a view on, then dont open topics of that nature.
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Paradox: Consider me duly chastised. Sorry to have misread/annoyed/offended you. (See my later posts, above.)
Welcome, & carry on with the debate!
Easy Livin': Thanks for the understanding & kind words! As you suggested, I guess I will "jump in" and post from time to time, as moved to do so (& as time allows), but I'll avoid such controversial, non-music-related topics, because I'm really not into debating them with strangers on a music (or any) forum (others are, I understand), and I always seem to offend someone when I take offense....
See you on the Reviews page, & GREAT reviews, BTW, Easy!
So many! You must have lots of spare time, comrade?
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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gdub411
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Posted: October 17 2004 at 16:09 |
Paradox....be nice to Peter...he apologized already
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