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Certif1ed 
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 Posted: February 18 2006 at 17:54 |
 AtLossForWords wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
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It's amazing what you can do with Antares 
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I saw that you posted here, and I knew exactly what you posted. Dream Theater are true perfectionists with their albums, and I support them using recording technology like Pro Tools to get the best possible result for an album. This doesn't subtract at all from their musical genius. No matter how many effects or how many remixes are done to a song, it will always sound like the human being playing or singing the song. The best result comes from when a band mixes their natrual talent and creativity with the technological enhancements of modern musical recording and mixing.
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I rather think you miss the point.
Do you know what Antares is?
http://www.antarestech.com/
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 17:46 |
Certif1ed wrote:
W.Chuck wrote:
rushaholic wrote:
Ty1020 wrote:
W.Chuck wrote:
But I agree that he sounds better in the studio. Just listen to
"Pull me under" on "Once in a Livetime", the instrumental performance
is great, but his vocals (in this track) are the worst I've ever heard!
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Don't judge his live performance abilities on a recording from over a
decade ago. He wasn't very good back then, no, but if you've seen him
live within the past year, it's clear that he's worked very hard to
change that as he now sounds at least as good live as he does in the
studio.
I'm a big fan of his voice, personally. It's certainly not the most
accessible tone in the world, but there's something about it that I
love.
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Absolutely not true. I was so excited to get the Live at Budokon and then utterly dissapointed when I heard his voice. It was shouting, not singing. And it was poor shouting BTW.No, his voice during live performances has not gotten better. Recent performances only prove that he has an awful voice. |
Yes! I just mentioned this "Pull me under" performance as an example since it's the worst I know. He's terrible on every live album. Of course he became better later, but in the studio he has been always better!
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It's amazing what you can do with Antares
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I saw that you posted here, and I knew exactly what you posted. Dream Theater are true perfectionists with their albums, and I support them using recording technology like Pro Tools to get the best possible result for an album. This doesn't subtract at all from their musical genius. No matter how many effects or how many remixes are done to a song, it will always sound like the human being playing or singing the song. The best result comes from when a band mixes their natrual talent and creativity with the technological enhancements of modern musical recording and mixing.
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 17:46 |
Ive been listening to a prog metal band called STRIDE , anyway my point is STRIDE have dream theater chops but they also have a great singer with a voice like (Brad Delp) from Boston , for this reason I enjoy Stide lots more than Dream Theater (if you like dream theater you would be nuts not to check Stride out, its amazing what a great singer can offer !) Labries voice is OK in the studio but its no match on the guy from Stride , take a listen I think you will agree 
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 17:42 |
Rashikal wrote:
im kind of embarassed to even own dream theater cd's. |
Damn... I'm actually embarrassed people write stuff like this... I mean we are all humans!
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 17:35 |
W.Chuck wrote:
rushaholic wrote:
Ty1020 wrote:
W.Chuck wrote:
But I agree that he sounds better in the studio. Just listen to
"Pull me under" on "Once in a Livetime", the instrumental performance
is great, but his vocals (in this track) are the worst I've ever heard!
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Don't judge his live performance abilities on a recording from over a
decade ago. He wasn't very good back then, no, but if you've seen him
live within the past year, it's clear that he's worked very hard to
change that as he now sounds at least as good live as he does in the
studio.
I'm a big fan of his voice, personally. It's certainly not the most
accessible tone in the world, but there's something about it that I
love.
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Absolutely not true. I was so excited to get the Live at Budokon and then utterly dissapointed when I heard his voice. It was shouting, not singing. And it was poor shouting BTW.No, his voice during live performances has not gotten better. Recent performances only prove that he has an awful voice. |
Yes! I just mentioned this "Pull me under" performance as an example since it's the worst I know. He's terrible on every live album. Of course he became better later, but in the studio he has been always better!
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It's amazing what you can do with Antares
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W.Chuck
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 03:55 |
rushaholic wrote:
Ty1020 wrote:
W.Chuck wrote:
But I agree that he sounds better in the studio. Just listen to
"Pull me under" on "Once in a Livetime", the instrumental performance
is great, but his vocals (in this track) are the worst I've ever heard!
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Don't judge his live performance abilities on a recording from over a
decade ago. He wasn't very good back then, no, but if you've seen him
live within the past year, it's clear that he's worked very hard to
change that as he now sounds at least as good live as he does in the
studio.
I'm a big fan of his voice, personally. It's certainly not the most
accessible tone in the world, but there's something about it that I
love.
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Absolutely not true. I was so excited to get the Live at Budokon and then utterly dissapointed when I heard his voice. It was shouting, not singing. And it was poor shouting BTW.No, his voice during live performances has not gotten better. Recent performances only prove that he has an awful voice. |
Yes! I just mentioned this "Pull me under" performance as an example since it's the worst I know. He's terrible on every live album. Of course he became better later, but in the studio he has been always better!
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ambriz
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 22:25 |
My favorite album is AWAKE, by Dream Theater.
Labrie's voice there is nothing short of amazing!
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Progressive music, a kind of life.
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Arsillus
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 21:07 |
It's good, it's getting better. I was pleased with his performance on Octavarium, but some of the earlier stuff...
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Rashikal
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 20:28 |
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im kind of embarassed to even own dream theater cd's.
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listen to Hella
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ChadFromCanada
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 20:26 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
Not always easy on the ears. Some might not like
his tone, understandably so, but he has a great range, and I enjoy his
voice. I couldn't see anyone else fronting Dream Theater. Without Dream
Theater, however, he is next to nothing. His solo work isn't very
good. I mean, his vocals are good, and there are some nice
melodies, but it's not exceptional or memorable. |
I really really like his voice.
About his solo work, I thought Mullmuzzler 2 was excellent.
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rushaholic
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 20:26 |
What does google have to do with my opinion of his voice? It is my opinion based on listening to their albums over the past 7 years or so. BTW, I did the search and no, my opinion hasn't changed. Happy listening though.
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The Miracle
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 20:25 |
I love him, sorry
Pretty hard to imagine DT with someone else.
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MajesterX
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 20:22 |
rushaholic wrote:
Recent performances only prove that he has an awful voice.
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Oh really? Go to google video and look up "James labrie" Has your opinion changed now?
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Rising Force
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 20:20 |
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Sometimes he's ok, but sometimes he's annoying and sounds queer.
Edit: IMHO
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 20:10 |
I believe the Dream Theater could have found a better vocalist than James Labrie way back when they did images and words, I`m not sure why they didn`t ? I can only presume that they didn`t want the vocals to over shadow the music. One thing is certain one things for sure if they had of found a younger sounding (steve walsh from the band Kansas who could also write great lyrics) Dream Theater would have been in my top five bands
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Ty1020
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 19:32 |
rushaholic wrote:
Ty1020 wrote:
W.Chuck wrote:
But I agree that he sounds better in the studio. Just listen to
"Pull me under" on "Once in a Livetime", the instrumental performance
is great, but his vocals (in this track) are the worst I've ever heard!
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Don't judge his live performance abilities on a recording from over a
decade ago. He wasn't very good back then, no, but if you've seen him
live within the past year, it's clear that he's worked very hard to
change that as he now sounds at least as good live as he does in the
studio.
I'm a big fan of his voice, personally. It's certainly not the most
accessible tone in the world, but there's something about it that I
love.
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Absolutely
not true. I was so excited to get the Live at Budokon and then
utterly dissapointed when I heard his voice. It was shouting, not
singing. And it was poor shouting BTW.
No, his voice during live performances has not gotten better. Recent performances only prove that he has an awful voice.
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I thought he was slightly better on Budokan, but still not great. Over
the past year or so, though, he has definitely improved a lot.
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lunaticviolist
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 19:15 |
Thufir Hawat wrote:
Woh, great turn out. Anyway I’m off to play
Tennis, wish me luck. PLEASE. |
Good luck
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lunaticviolist
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 19:14 |
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I'm not big on Dream Theater, but the vocals definitely fit the music.
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rushaholic
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 19:10 |
Drew wrote:
Totally disagree- the last couple times I have seen them live- and Budokan showed me he has only gotten better since Once in a Livetime. |
He may have gotten better but a turd is still a turd. I won't argue with you anymore though. I did like what he did with Ayreon and I do like his vocals sometimes. However, I think he tries to oversing things. Anyways, they are a good band and I'll keep on buying their stuff.
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 18:31 |
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Bad does not do it justice.
Bloody awful isn't that close either.
DT would go up a star if they ditched him and got someone in who can sing - James Hetfield comes to mind immediately.
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