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M. B. Zapelini 
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 Posted: January 30 2006 at 05:25 |
I never thought of Genesis as a heavy band. In early seventies they were an adventurous band, messing with various musical styles, but they're definitely not heavy. Cannot judge a band by some elements or a few songs. If you only listen to "Long Gone Geek", you'd probably call Procol Harum as a metal band...
IMO, "You Really Got Me" (The Kinks) was the first metal song!! This was released in 1965... Believe me or not, The Rolling Stones version to "She Said Yeah" (check out for "Out of Our Heads - UK version" - the one with the same cover of "December's CHildren") was another heavy 1965 song...
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Rosescar
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Posted: January 30 2006 at 05:21 |
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Some moments, yes.
Just some moments.
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Blacksword
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Posted: January 30 2006 at 05:18 |
I have never considered them in any way 'metal' related, although I know they were an influence on numerous metal bands, like Iron Maiden and Van Halen (apparently Eddie Van Halen's style was very influenced by Hackets 'tapping')
I think their 'heavier' moments were really just that; moments. These heavy sections sat alongside predominantly light or symphonic passages of music.
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Zenith
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Posted: January 30 2006 at 04:44 |
Genesis metal??? Get some rewax
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 30 2006 at 03:29 |
Heavy Metal starts with In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, the fabulous album released by Iron Butterfly in 1968!
This is their second release. Their first it's not a case it's titled "Heavy"!
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martinprog77
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Posted: January 30 2006 at 02:59 |
genesis a gothic or metal band!!!!!! 
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: January 30 2006 at 02:08 |
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Genesis Live is a very heavy album, now that I think of it
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tardis
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Posted: January 30 2006 at 00:12 |
What about Yes? 
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Peter
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Posted: January 30 2006 at 00:11 |
 Er, don't take this the wrong way, but were you repeatedly dropped on your head as an infant, perchance?
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IcedSabbath
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Posted: January 30 2006 at 00:07 |
Heavy metal was forged with the first three notes of Black Sabbath's first album.
Nothing before that was even remotely metal, IMO.
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tardis
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Posted: January 30 2006 at 00:02 |
What about Deep Purple? 
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herbie53
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Posted: January 29 2006 at 23:34 |
 The Letter M wrote:
Rush was more Metal than Genesis in the 70s. Listen to songs like By-Tor & The Snowdog, The Necromancer, Bastille Day, and even some of 2112 are more metal than Genesis was, IMO.
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Hey... the discussion is about the foundations of metal sound, and RUSH was very late to be mentioned here. They are from the middle of the seventies, and the hard approach of them was not innovative and very influenced by LED ZEPPELIN sound...
But i agree with the most people here, GENESIS didn't influenced primordial heavy metal pioneers like others great prog and hard bands that have really made it... like ZEPPELIN, CRIMSON, SABBATH
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Posted: January 29 2006 at 22:49 |
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Tulls 'Love story' from 1968 was the first metal song ;)
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troy
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Posted: January 29 2006 at 20:56 |
ProgsCerebrum wrote:
I have been thinking about this for a long time...early genesis was often dark/gothic and the guitar parts occasionally got really heavy...not to mention hacketts finger-tapping. Of course its been said that bands like Sabbath, King Crimson, Led Zepplin, etc. made up the foundation of what we know as metal today. But in my opinion, Genesis belongs in that group, even if they dont have that blatant "metal" sound...people tend to overlook their heaviness. Just my two cents. |
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: January 29 2006 at 20:23 |
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Dancing with the Moonlit knight is pretty damn heavy.
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: January 29 2006 at 19:04 |
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Genesis definately had some very metal influence matierial, songs like The Musical Box and Dancing With the Moonlight Knight definately had very metal moments in them. Genesis is far from metal, but they have certainly been influential to many melodic metal bands.
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The Wizard
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Posted: January 29 2006 at 18:10 |
First there gothic and now there metal. Whats next, Genesis are Punk?
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: January 29 2006 at 17:44 |
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Genesis? Metal? Ha! Please don't ruin my favorite band with silly accusations.
Edited by NetsNJFan
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Thufir Hawat
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Posted: January 29 2006 at 17:36 |
King Crimson, Led Zeppelin and Rush were some
The very first metal bands. Not Genesis.
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The Letter M
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Posted: January 29 2006 at 17:32 |
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Rush was more Metal than Genesis in the 70s. Listen to songs like By-Tor & The Snowdog, The Necromancer, Bastille Day, and even some of 2112 are more metal than Genesis was, IMO.
-Marc.
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First metal band, Genesis?
