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Poll Question: Who is Your Favourite Canterbury Band/Artist?
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30 [20.98%]
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1 [0.70%]
5 [3.50%]
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44 [30.77%]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 08:08

I don't know legend of mind, that's interesting

I have Space shanty by mantra (french label) which released it the early 90's

but this label is dead...

Maybe i can send you a copy by postmail, and you send me "Legend of mind"?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 08:05
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

yes, MGP, but it's too repetitive.

Don' t forget classic canterburyan efforts like "KHAN/SPACE SHANTY"

with Steve Hillage

 

Has that album even made it to CD? There is a remastered Khan track (along with a couple Caravan tracks), on that most excellent compo Legend Of A Mind. which sounds very Canterbury and makes me want to make up for the omission of Khan in my record collection. I suppose it comes down to patience again: for instance,  what appears the whole of the Gilgamesh recordings are now available on CD - and there were considerable delays in  reissuing their first album.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 07:26

Yes i agree, Legend is an absolute must

It has NOTHING to do with PF

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 07:20
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

You forget  HENRY COW

The most virtuose and complex of all bands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Yes, I would agree with you (especially Legend/Leg End)- but for a time they were dumped into the "Cambridge music" slot - odd company for Pink Floyd, the other band plonked there at the same time.Big smile



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 07:15

You forget  HENRY COW

The most virtuose and complex of all bands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 07:13

Here's an excellent french site about Canterbury:

 

http://perso.club-internet.fr/calyx/

 

You won't be deceived!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 07:11

If you consider Gong as part of canterbury, you should include the first "real"

Gong album with the french poet dashiell hedayat: Obsolete

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 07:06

yes, MGP, but it's too repetitive.

Don' t forget classic canterburyan efforts like "KHAN/SPACE SHANTY"

with Steve Hillage

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 07:01
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

And do you know DEDALUS, also italian, which is closed to soft Machine(fourth/fifht period?)

Excellent.

dedalus (1972)

 

 

Absolutely. Too, French band Moving Gelatine Plates, certainly sounded like the Softs (around Third), reflecting that the French were far better appreciating the Softs (and other Canterbury bands) than the English. Still true today with the excellent French jazz tribute group  Polysofts. But then Canterbury is less than 50 miles from France.

 

One point Theo Travis made in a recent interview, which has direct relevance to spotting a Canterbury band, with a vocalist, is the manner in which the lyrics are sung. Travis, talking about Robert Wyatt and Richard Sinclair, made the observation is that they sing with English accents, while so many other English born and bred singers affect an American accent. John Peel in the early 70's called this the 'school of anti-singing', specifically referring to Robert Wyatt and Kevin Ayers (although Ayers can sound  American wrt to his inflections and stresses in lyrics). If you want to hear this difference, listen to Hugh Hopper's Dedicated To You But You Weren't Listening, as sung by Wyatt on Soft Machine Volume 2 and Eliane DeFlaco  on Caveman Hughscore.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 06:59

Without forgetting albums like

KHAN/ SPACE SHANTY

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 02:00
Hatfield & the North
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 01:58
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Please can somebody justify Isotope and Daryl Way's Wolf in this list, while omitting Gong (marks 1 and mark 2), Egg, and the various Elton Dean and Phil Miller projects, Steve Hillage (blimey he studied at  University of Kent at Canterbury for a short while before joining Gong)- and original Canterbury band Wilde Flowers? (And then there is all those projects Lol Coxhill and the late Steve Miller were involved - btw I don't mean the Texan Steve Miller). However, I'm please to see you haven't included Allan Holdsworth or Bill Bruford - as some have (like the Canterbury fanzine Facelift for a start)
Isotope included Hugh Hopper and Daryl Way's Wolf included John Etheridge both members of Soft Machine at one time or another.


Goodness you open so a huge can of worms, by inclusion bands who are not normally recognised as Canterbury but had past or future members of a Canterbury band - while omitting obvious Canterbury bands.  So why omit Hugh's name from the list, when he has produced a fine set of albums under his own names in the last 30 years, or Hugh with Stomu Yamashta Band (also with Gary Boyle) or Caveman Hughscore? And think of the number of musician both common to Nucleus and Soft Machine. And how about Etheridge's Zappatistas - Zappa meets canterbury. And so on. 



The key to the can of worms as I mentioned before in a
less 'poetic' way is the other/related section.
Maybe I should have just listed
Wilde Flowers
Other/related.
and let everyone get on with it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2004 at 17:51

Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Please can somebody justify Isotope and Daryl Way's Wolf in this list, while omitting Gong (marks 1 and mark 2), Egg, and the various Elton Dean and Phil Miller projects, Steve Hillage (blimey he studied at  University of Kent at Canterbury for a short while before joining Gong)- and original Canterbury band Wilde Flowers? (And then there is all those projects Lol Coxhill and the late Steve Miller were involved - btw I don't mean the Texan Steve Miller). However, I'm please to see you haven't included Allan Holdsworth or Bill Bruford - as some have (like the Canterbury fanzine Facelift for a start)


Isotope included Hugh Hopper and Daryl Way's Wolf included John Etheridge both members of Soft Machine
at one time or another.

Goodness you open so a huge can of worms, by inclusion bands who are not normally recognised as Canterbury but had past or future members of a Canterbury band - while omitting obvious Canterbury bands.  So why omit Hugh's name from the list, when he has produced a fine set of albums under his own names in the last 30 years, or Hugh with Stomu Yamashta Band (also with Gary Boyle) or Caveman Hughscore? And think of the number of musician both common to Nucleus and Soft Machine. And how about Etheridge's Zappatistas - Zappa meets canterbury. And so on. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2004 at 16:41

Picchio dal pozzo, yes, just listen this afternoon! a must:

reminiscence of Rock bottom, gong /you and Hatfield!

The singer is between Sinclair and Wyatt...

And do you know DEDALUS, also italian, which is closed to soft Machine(fourth/fifht period?)

Excellent.

dedalus (1972)

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2004 at 16:03

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

...while omitting Gong....

There will always be discussions about who that shall be included under the Canterbury-umbrella. For some reason I've never included Gong. Guess it's because of the influence from other parts of the music world than the distinct Canterbury sound and the presence of foreign musicians. I would rather include Picchio dal Pozzo... One of my favourite "Canterbury"-bands.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2004 at 15:42

Caravan for me too .

Don't hate me
I'm not special like you
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2004 at 15:07

Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:



Caravan by a country mile for me. Weren't Camel also considered to be Canterbury?


Aaah! Caramel.
Yes,but sort of by default once Richard sinclair had joined them on their 5th album.They were latterly joined
by other members of Caravan and hence the nickname
'Caramel.'

Members of the two bands did of course work together on a more "formal" basis as Mirage, performing songs by both bands plus some Pete Bardens solo material.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2004 at 14:39
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Please can somebody justify Isotope and Daryl Way's Wolf in this list, while omitting Gong (marks 1 and mark 2), Egg, and the various Elton Dean and Phil Miller projects, Steve Hillage (blimey he studied at  University of Kent at Canterbury for a short while before joining Gong)- and original Canterbury band Wilde Flowers? (And then there is all those projects Lol Coxhill and the late Steve Miller were involved - btw I don't mean the Texan Steve Miller). However, I'm please to see you haven't included Allan Holdsworth or Bill Bruford - as some have (like the Canterbury fanzine Facelift for a start)


Isotope included Hugh Hopper and Daryl Way's Wolf included John Etheridge both members of Soft Machine
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2004 at 14:34
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:



Caravan by a country mile for me. Weren't Camel also considered to be Canterbury?


Aaah! Caramel.
Yes,but sort of by default once Richard sinclair had joined them on their 5th album.They were latterly joined
by other members of Caravan and hence the nickname
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2004 at 14:20
Caravan by a country mile for me. Weren't Camel also considered to be Canterbury?
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