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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 25 2006 at 08:06 |
Sean Trane wrote:
well MeR,
You know my opinion on this!
To me alternative rock with progressive tinges deserve to be included in Prog-related>> remember Radiohead which I think should not be anything else than Prog-related
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I thought about Radiohead - and unless we take the discussion down to the album level, I think we won't find a real agreement here.
Sean Trane wrote:
but in no way should the Alternative rock even with the word progressive be included because this would open the door to stuff like Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Suede, REM, and even the groups included in Indie rock (since independant label rock and alternative rock are too similar)
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Why do you throw a lot of bands at me here which are not progressive? I agree that Alternative/Independent is pretty much the same thing though. The difficult part is to determine which of these bands are really progressive. I'm not sure if it's "doable" ... that's why I created this poll.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: January 25 2006 at 08:02 |
well MeR,
You know my opinion on this!
To me alternative rock with progressive tinges deserve to be included in Prog-related>> remember Radiohead which I think should not be anything else than Prog-related
but in no way should the Alternative rock even with the word progressive be included because this would open the door to stuff like Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Suede, REM, and even the groups included in Indie rock (since independant label rock and alternative rock are too similar).
So I voted for the first option, but my stance is in between the first and second (but stated as Intelligent or Complex Alternative) options.
Edited by Sean Trane
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 25 2006 at 07:53 |
^ I'm curious: does your definition of "Alternative" include bands such as System of a Down or Dredg?
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BaldJean
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Posted: January 25 2006 at 07:31 |
"Alternative" is a subset of "Prog", in my opinion. Music that is called "alternative" and NOT prog is in my opinion not really alternative.
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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JayDee
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Posted: January 25 2006 at 07:26 |
^Id go fo complex.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 25 2006 at 07:23 |
^ I guess that we would need another poll to determine whether SOAD is Progressive Alternative Rock or just "Complex" or "Intelligent" Alternative Rock.
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GFoyle
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Posted: January 25 2006 at 07:20 |
I think definitely.
I actually "came" to prog from that genre.
I have to add one band to your list, The Apex Theory is definitely
worth checking out. One of my favorite bands. SOAD is another which is
alternative rock and definitely has prog elements.
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JayDee
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Posted: January 25 2006 at 07:20 |
I think so! Radiohead is. And after much listening and contemplation: Coheed And Cambria
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 25 2006 at 07:16 |
I'm just curious ... do you think that there is such a thing as Progressive Alternative Rock (I abbreviated it as PAR in the poll options)?
If so, should it be listed here?
Consider bands like Dredg or Coheed & Cambria and a bunch of other interesting bands, or tell me which bands you would put in this genre.
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