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Moogtron III 
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 Posted: January 23 2006 at 05:19 |
They are absolutely underrated. They are no virtuosos, but they can make excellent, moving compositions, and they do have their own distinct sound, which had a lot of followers.
Andy Latimer once said in an interview that he sometimes goes to a guitarshop, and some really young guys play really fast licks. He thought by himself: I can't do that, but what I can do is being a really good performer of my own songs. Which is true. Andy can tell a story with his guitar, a bit like the good blues guitarists.
As the years go by, the Camel catalogue still grows on me, and even starts to rival my favourite bands: Genesis and Yes.
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felixxx
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Posted: January 23 2006 at 04:56 |
Yes maybe are boring but Camel no way 
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Posted: January 23 2006 at 04:54 |
 gentletull wrote:
Their debut album is very good. Moon, Rain and Breathless are great stuff. Mirage is cool, but lady fantasy can sound a bit outdated ;). Nude, I can see your house are cool too. Snowgoose is cool, but overrated a bit like Mirage. But that is 8 albums with great stuff on each. I haven't herad alot of their 90s stuff, but I like what I've heard. These guys are better than Crimson for sure. Crimson are a second tier prog band :) Most of cimsons pre 1980 albums are overrated by prog fans ;) |
I have always regarded King Crimson as first rate prog , up there with the best of the best 
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Posted: January 23 2006 at 04:26 |
Their debut album is very good. Moon, Rain and Breathless are great stuff. Mirage is cool, but lady fantasy can sound a bit outdated ;). Nude, I can see your house are cool too. Snowgoose is cool, but overrated a bit like Mirage. But that is 8 albums with great stuff on each. I haven't herad alot of their 90s stuff, but I like what I've heard. These guys are better than Crimson for sure. Crimson are a second tier prog band :) Most of cimsons pre 1980 albums are overrated by prog fans ;)
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Ricochet
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Posted: January 23 2006 at 00:48 |
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not overrated (very much)...I must confess that Camel is a strange
experiment in me...I find real,"prog",pleasure only in three
albums,Mirage,The Snow Goose (masterpiece) and Moodmadness...on the
other hand Camel has a bunch of albums that simply are close to
horrible...!!!...so,a little overrated,but the credit for the three
great album is not to be unremarked...
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: January 23 2006 at 00:26 |
Mirage through Moonmadness are high quality, and I'm pretty sure much of their recognition is attributed by that period. I would disagree based on those three albums alone. They have a handul of good albums, but a handful of poor albums also. They're not as good as many of the "prog giants," no, but they should get credit for their credible work.
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Zitro
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Posted: January 23 2006 at 00:23 |
In the prog forum .. I'll say yes. They are, in my opinion, inferior to the prog giants... yet have their laughable (in my opinion) debut album with an average of 4 stars, and their mediocre Mirage in the top 10.
In the non-prog world ... I'll say no ... almost nobody knows them. They have quite a bunch of good, accessible albums, and are one of the few 70s prog bands that can still release good albums in the 90s/ 00s. Camel is better than most soft-rock/new age/easy listening bands.
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Thufir Hawat
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Posted: January 23 2006 at 00:14 |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 23 2006 at 00:03 |
I have to agree with s1ipp3ry, I find most Camel very boring.
Iván
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: January 22 2006 at 23:48 |
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no. they adequately deserve their place at the top of the 2nd tier of prog. |
I thought that distinction belonged to VDGG.
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i generally consider VdGG the bottom of the first tier.
Oh this is riduclous anyhow
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The Miracle
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Posted: January 22 2006 at 22:08 |
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I like them a lot. Not boring at all, but it takes a while to grow on you.
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Erpland316
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Posted: January 22 2006 at 21:56 |
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Camel are very underrated. Andy Latimer is one of the most underappreciated guitarists.
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Gentle Tull
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Posted: January 22 2006 at 21:49 |
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No, not at all. I actually think Camel are underrated.
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SirPsycho388
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Posted: January 22 2006 at 21:46 |
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ABSOLUTELY NOT! CAMEL IS FAR FROM OVERRATED!
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Strangers passing in the street by chance two separate glances meet and I am you and what I see is me. And do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help me understand the best I can
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Kotro
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Posted: January 22 2006 at 21:20 |
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What did you buy? I personaly feel their first three are masterpieces, I also find the rest a tad boring.
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Bigger on the inside.
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ANDREW
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Posted: January 22 2006 at 21:09 |
s1ipp3ry wrote:
I own a few Camel CD`s which I purchased mostly due to the popularity they seem to have on this site, my problem is after listening to them plenty of times I can`t say I feel the way most of you do about them , they strike me as B grade prog I`d even go as far as saying I think they are a little bit boring , do you think camel are overrated on this site ? |
NO!
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Posted: January 22 2006 at 21:07 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
no. they adequately deserve their place at the top of the 2nd tier of prog. |
I thought that distinction belonged to VDGG.
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Posted: January 22 2006 at 21:07 |
gentletull wrote:
Camel rock. Their period from 1976-1978 is great stuff. I consider the 3 KC wetton albums as B grade prog  |
1976 -1978 isn`t long to be "on fire" and have such dominance on the the top 100 in this site they seem to have (when you think about it)
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Posted: January 22 2006 at 21:06 |
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