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matti meikäläin
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 04:09 |
totally agree.. they are really poor
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 03:57 |
Pafnutij wrote:
True, I'd say. Sometimes they're OK, but mostly quite terrible.
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Could it be possible that yousimply don't understand the lyrics? Not the words, but the meaning behind them ... it happened before.
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The Miracle
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 03:06 |
I love 'em... Petrucci is one of my favorite lyricists. It's all a matter of opinion.
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Thufir Hawat
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Posted: January 14 2006 at 00:14 |
Sometimes their lyrics can be cheesy, also
James Labrie’s voice can be very annoying
in some parts. The instrumentals make up
for these inconstancies though.
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"I can't see through my eye lids"
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SirPsycho388
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 23:56 |
I personally think Dream Theater writes incredible lyrics. Though some of them may be cheesy at times, what prog band hasn't ever written cheesy lyrics??? They all come across an element of cheese at some point, some ridiculous topics - but thats prog.
Dream Theater definately writes much better lyrics than 99% of most bands today.
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Strangers passing in the street by chance two separate glances meet and I am you and what I see is me. And do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help me understand the best I can
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Pafnutij
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 23:50 |
True, I'd say. Sometimes they're OK, but mostly quite terrible.
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Ty1020
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 23:31 |
Most of the lyrics to SDOIT (the song) are indeed embarassingly
terrible, but other than that, I really don't have a problem with DT's
lyrics most of the time.
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stonebeard
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 23:21 |
Mmmm, not all that much. Sure some not too great, but I think they've gotten better over the years.
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King of Loss
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 22:55 |
The Ryan wrote:
Man Overboard wrote:
I'm sure English is primary in Sweden -now-, but with Roine, the primary lyricist, approaching 50... and the first 20 or so years of his music being exclusively Swedish... I'd say that English is in fact his second language. Oh snap?  |
I don't see how having English as a second language excuses anything... Oh well, I like the Flower Kings lyrics a lot anyways, I also believe some people are just too 'incoherent' themselves to understand. At least the Flower Kings aren't strung out on negativity like the rest of the world, that gets awfully repetitive.
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Totally agreed! Listening to something like the Flower Kings and Spock's Beard really gets me happy! 
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The Ryan
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 22:48 |
Man Overboard wrote:
I'm sure English is primary in Sweden -now-, but with Roine, the primary lyricist, approaching 50... and the first 20 or so years of his music being exclusively Swedish... I'd say that English is in fact his second language. Oh snap?  |
I don't see how having English as a second language excuses anything... Oh well, I like the Flower Kings lyrics a lot anyways, I also believe some people are just too 'incoherent' themselves to understand. At least the Flower Kings aren't strung out on negativity like the rest of the world, that gets awfully repetitive.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 22:17 |
I always enjoyed Kevin Moore's lyrics though I think he improved when he left but the rest of the band are just bad:
"Curled up in the darkness
Searching for the light
The smell of sweat and sh*t
Steaming through the night
Random urine testing
Pills red, pink and blue
Counselling and therapy
Providing not a clue"
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Man Overboard
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 21:52 |
I'm sure English is primary in Sweden -now-, but with Roine, the
primary lyricist, approaching 50... and the first 20 or so years
of his music being exclusively Swedish... I'd say that English is
in fact his second language. Oh snap?
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CaincelaOreinim
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 21:44 |
Agree 100% on both The Flower Kings and Dream Theater lyric front. Both of them have no excuse and write some of the silliest lyrics I've ever had the pleasure of listening to - regardless, I do like and am a fan of both bands.
(The Flower Kings by the way, if you investigate matters of education in Sweden, learn English as their first language, native subsequent - feel free to disagree as I'm pretty sure this is the case...)
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Bryan
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 21:06 |
Read the lyrics to Scenes From a Memory... need I say more?
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chamberry
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 21:01 |
I don't find them bad at all, except for some bad lyrics here and there, but that counts for every band.
And I can't find bad lyrics in Octavarium either (except i walk beside
you).Panic atack and Sacrificed sons are good ones to name a few.
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King of Loss
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 19:56 |
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BePinkTheater
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 19:50 |
Some are pretty cheesy, mostly in Sfam. But Kevin Moore was a brilliant writer, John Myung was incredible. And Petrucc and Port are great as well.
They are deffinatly not as bad as other bands.
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I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard
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Man Overboard
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 18:52 |
Yeah, screw you Lindsay.  TFK have brilliant lyrics, they're just... filtered through not speaking English as a native language.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 18:51 |
study flower kings lyrics before you go on about dt making bad lyrics 
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 13 2006 at 17:57 |
TheLamb wrote:
Ed_The_Dead wrote:
Disagree!
Portnoy and Petrucci write great, deep and intelligent lyrics... Not as awesome as some other bands do, but still not terribly embarrassing. 2 bad LaBrie doesn't contribute much.... I really liked the lyrics for Sacrificed Sons...
What songs do you mean in particular, Lamb?
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A Change of Seasons has good lyrics, in my opinion, the rest are just terrible. Train of Thought - Everything is bad, Octavarium - Almost everything is bad, Awake - Some nice parts but still mostly bad, Falling into infinity - everything is bad, Images - some slightly OK parts, but alot of crap.... it goes on and on for me. I just really don't pay much attention to lyrics ussualy but their lyrics is so annoying, it just caught my attention. Makes me regret I ever read the booklet :\
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My advice to you: Grow up. Maybe someday you'll be able to participate in discussions for grown up people - or understand clever lyrics.
Edited by MikeEnRegalia
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