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lunaticviolist
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 15:14 |
It's my favorite Crimso album. There's not a weak track.
Orbert wrote:
Someone said there's a live track on Red; I'm assuming they meant "Providence", but I always thought "Providence" was live in the studio, which isn't quite the same as live before an audience.
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Providence was recorded in the studio (in Providence as a matter of fact).
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Logos
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Joined: March 08 2005
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 14:16 |
Red is BRILLIANT.
It can't possibly be overrated.
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Bj-1
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 14:03 |
Red is slightly overrated, IMO. I like ITCOTCK, LTIA and S&BB much better. Still a excellent album, though!
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Manunkind
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 13:55 |
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Orbert
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 13:48 |
Red is still my favorite King Crimson album, followed closely by USA. That's probably not a coincidence. I love that lineup. I'll admit to skipping "Providence" once in a while, if I'm not feeling mellow enough for it.
Someone said there's a live track on Red; I'm assuming they meant "Providence", but I always thought "Providence" was live in the studio, which isn't quite the same as live before an audience.
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In and around the lake...
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salmacis
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 12:16 |
I'd say it's King Crimson's best and most consistent album after 'ITCOTCK', as it has the most straightforward, and clearly structured, songs since then. It actually has the same format as 'ITCOTCK', with 4 straight songs and 1 experimental piece, in the same order- side 1 has three rock songs, side 1 has an experimental piece then another more straight song.
'Red', and in fact the John Wetton period in general, still sounds amazingly fresh and vibrant today, possibly due to the downplaying of keyboards in this era, that whilst I love keyboards, were very much a typically 70s phenomena.
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M. B. Zapelini
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 05:39 |
I bought "Red" 10 years after its original release. Listening to it for the first time was a better experience than listening to "Larks Tongues in Aspic" - but, today, I prefer "Larks..." to "Red".
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"He's a man of the past and one of the present"
PETER HAMMILL
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Bob Greece
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 05:36 |
The album is OK but personally I prefer music that is faster and not so depressing.
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Phil
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 04:11 |
FragileDT wrote:
Red is an incredible album though I would take Lark's Tongues in Aspic over
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I agree. Red is excellent but Lark's Tongues had a bigger impact on me.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 03:28 |
BTW maiden has instrumentals that are much more progressive than RED which had such a weak riff i had to laugh the first time i heard it
Edited by maidenrulez
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Moogtron III
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 03:25 |
Red has very good music on it. I loved it from the very first notes. It was immediately: "wow"!
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 03:15 |
It is a really weak album without any special moments....The mars volta shows King crimson how it should be done on Frances the mute
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richardh
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 02:33 |
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Legoman
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 01:56 |
Without a doubt.
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: November 02 2005 at 01:54 |
I think that "Red" is best of their official studio albums (though theres one live track on it). Some of their live recordings from that line-up, which were released officially later, are still better musically, though they have a bit poorer sound quality!
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 23:44 |
Starless - my favorite prog song ever and I'm not even a Crimso junkie
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greenback
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 22:29 |
i think it is too overrated.
i would say half the album is good.
this record started the alternative rock genre.
kurt cobain loved this record
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[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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The Miracle
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 21:40 |
Indeed... That was my first KC, and I fell in love with it instantly
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`Ubu
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 21:34 |
a great album by a great band .. thanks to this record im hooked in prog right now ..
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"..So what´s the speed of dark?.."
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-bp-
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 21:32 |
I made the mistake of getting both in the court, and red at the same time  WOW.  both unbelieveable albums which got me hooked on prog
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