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Hi,

I can easily get this one from the SPR lists ... however, deciding which is tops is for the goons, not me! And this list is probably only half of what it should be, and that's the reason why lists are hard for me ... can never complete them!!!!!!

Amon Duul 2 - Wolf City
Can - Ege Bamyasi
Guru Guru - Kan Guru
Klaus Schulze - Mirage
Neu - First
Agitation Free - Malesch
AshRa Tempel - New Age of Earth
Brainticket - Cottonwood Hill
Cluster - II
The Cosmic Jokers - The Cosmic Jokers
Deuter - Aum
Eberhard Schoener - Trance-Formation
Eloy - Inside
Camel (UK) - The Snow Goose
Emerson, Lake & Palmer (UK) - Tarkus
Focus (NL) - Hamburger Concerto
Jean-Michel Jarre (F) - Oxygene
Mahavishnu Orchestra (USA) - Birds of Fire
The Mothers (USA) - Over-nite Sensation
Tangerine Dream (D) - Stratosfear
Eroc - Eroc
Faust - So Far
Sadistic Mika Band - 2nd/ 3rd album
PFM - Storia/Per Un Amico
Banco - 1st
Le Orme - Collage/Felona e Serona
Carmen - Fandangos in Space/Gypsies
Granada - Valle del Pas
Ange - Au Dela Du Delire/Emile Jacotey
Egberto Gismonti - No Caipira/Danca das Cabecas/Sol do Meio Dia
Edgar Broughton Band - Oora
Terje Rypdal - Odyssey





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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

the PE quote is not relevant anymore and I don't stand by it now. Also, "no personal attacks" is still a rule here. Just saying.

At least my personal attacks (if you feel "attacked") are frontal
Yours are behind people's back.Dead
That PE intervention is quite recent, BTW. 

 
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

You're saying here that the period from the late '60s to early '70s was particularly constructive, but I'd extend that to late '70s, as there was a lot of good political fighting in the rest of the '70s. Smile


Oh yeah, the political fights went on until the early 80's, once the yuppies (ex-hippies) started pllaying the capitalist game under Bitcher & Reagan rules.

Herd to believe the punks actually voted for the Cons-ervatives over the Labour, but something had to change in the UK during the later 70's. 
However, did anybody deserve Maggie Bitcher the Butcher?? Confused


Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I used the term "boomer" as a simple abbreviation of "baby boomer". Believe it or not, a lot of people use it in such context online. Also, the generation labels are not strict or scientific nor are they meant to judge people. They're meant to simplify certain generational traits in order to find common grounds between people who grew up during similar time frames. ;)


I've often heard it hurled as insult (and disrespect) a bit too many times, starting with the "OK, Boomer" craze of 5 to 10 years ago.

I do agree that these terms are somewhat useful when needing to describe generations, but involves too many  generalizations.

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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I was born in 1996 and I consider myself a Zillennial. Like, definitely a Millennial in a lot of aspects, but just a little bit too young to remember most of the stuff typical Millennials are nostalgic for. And on the other hand, too old to truly "get" the way Gen Z'ers are perceiving their media. But you know what? At the end of the day, what helps me connect with representatives of other generations is progressive rock music. Prog is timeless. <3

While we're a bit off-topic, you're surely not the only one of younger generation who can connect with older generations on basis of progressive music. Here's a Swedish modern band clearly much influenced by the Hippie movement:

                              

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ Another way the wires could get crossed. That reminds me, I had meant to mention ELO way back on page two of this thread -- ah, the memories, that takes me back to yesterday. Now I'm feeling nostalgic for yesterday, when all my troubles seemed so far away. My older brother, as usual, bought that A New World Record album and I remember hearing it when wee (not when weeing). He also had bought a Simon Says game and the cover had reminded me of that. ELO was one of the first pop/rock bands I remember getting into as a weeing lad.


My favourite ELO album, and one of my top 20 of all time is 'A New World Record' tho I chose their first self-titled album for this topic as it had a bigger influence on my prog education.
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I was born in 1996 and I consider myself a Zillennial. Like, definitely a Millennial in a lot of aspects, but just a little bit too young to remember most of the stuff typical Millennials are nostalgic for. And on the other hand, too old to truly "get" the way Gen Z'ers are perceiving their media. But you know what? At the end of the day, what helps me connect with representatives of other generations is progressive rock music. Prog is timeless. <3
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^ Interesting, Prophesy. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I used the term "boomer" as a simple abbreviation of "baby boomer". Believe it or not, a lot of people use it in such context online. Also, the generation labels are not strict or scientific nor are they meant to judge people. They're meant to simplify certain generational traits in order to find common grounds between people who grew up during similar time frames. ;)
 
Also, these generation labels go back to the people born during the late 19th century:

 

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I find it interesting how so many here discovered prog in the late 70s just as prog was supposedly dying out. Maybe some of you were thinking "hey, this is stuff is cool. Hey wait, it's not popular now? You mean I have to listen to punk and new wave instead?" LOL

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^As a boomer, the word does not offend me.
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I used the term "boomer" as a simple abbreviation of "baby boomer". Believe it or not, a lot of people use it in such context online. Also, the generation labels are not strict or scientific nor are they meant to judge people. They're meant to simplify certain generational traits in order to find common grounds between people who grew up during similar time frames. ;)
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About Hrychu's criticism, it's a rather hard one, but I don't think that it's a bad idea to discuss the subject...and yes, without 
personal attacks. Smile







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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

YOU don't understand. I have no problems with the use of Baby-Boomers (the terms Jared used) , but the use of the "boomer" diminutive term (that YOU used) is generally  meant/used to be negative. Ouch


I must confess, I'm not a fan of the terms either; they are lazy, stereo-typical labels which tend to artificially divide generations, rather than bring them together...

I suppose I used it, because of all the demarcations, 1965 is the DOB year most commonly given for the cut off between Baby-Boomers and Gen X. This seemed to fall perfectly when describing who could take part in David's thread, because someone born in 1965 would have been 14 in 1979 and therefore just old enough to have formulated a rudimentary Prog collection, whereas any Gen Xers (like me) would have found that very difficult.

My apologies to anyone offended by the labelling...  Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

In some ways, yes, I do think that those who were late-teens and in early their early 20's during the late 60's and early 70's are fairly different than the baby-boomers. They participated to summer of  love, civil rights movement fights, Mai 68 in Paris,West  German rebellions, etc...   Early BB rebels were few and generally called Beatnicks, while later BB were more numerous and became Hippies.

You're saying here that the period from the late '60s to early '70s was particularly constructive, but I'd extend that to late '70s, as there was a lot of good political fighting in the rest of the '70s. Smile

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the PE quote is not relevant anymore and I don't stand by it now. Also, "no personal attacks" is still a rule here. Just saying.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

If someone is insensitive here, it is you, Sean. Yes you. Just, chill out and re-read my messages. I didn't criticize those generations in my post!

Read it carefully, without your default negative prejudice.

I used those terms in a stirctly descriptive manner. I mean, IMHO the generation gaps aren't even as drastics as people lead themselves to believe. I know a lot of boomers (born 1946-1964) and Jonesers (~1958-1963 more/less) who are friendly and easy going people. The constant culture wars really shape cross-generational relations in a negative way. It's a bit of a bummer.

 

YOU don't understand. I have no problems with the use of Baby-Boomers (the terms Jared used) , but the use of the "boomer" diminutive term (that YOU used) is generally  meant/used to be negative. Ouch

I had to look up "Jonesers", because I'd never heard of that bogus concept (gen X is another bogus as well, and so are all the next inventions like Gen Z and now Gen Alpha).

In some ways, yes, I do think that those who were late-teens and in early their early 20's during the late 60's and early 70's are fairly different than the baby-boomers. They participated to summer of  love, civil rights movement fights, Mai 68 in Paris,West  German rebellions, etc...   Early BB rebels were few and generally called Beatnicks, while later BB were more numerous and became Hippies.

In either case, the younger dudes mocking the older generations should really shut up and be respectfull for the fight and price paid in their fight to change the world (at least the western hemisphere), because they would've really resented the established order prior to 67 to be still in application today.

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ProgArchives community is getting more and more toxic. What a shame.

For some time now, PA simply doesn't feel like a community anymore. There are many active users but they all do their own thing, debate over which band is better (using polls or not) and rarely showing any real human social skills. The way discussions on PA go rn doesn't make me ever want to hang out with any of those users. I dunno. Maybe it's the generational gap? The userbase give me an impression of masked-up anonymous figures wearing business suits. PA just feels really formal and cold.

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I got ELO's Face the Music (1975) about a year after it's release, but it didn't really hit and today, I don't find it to be particularly progressive.
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I was one of the young boys in the 70s, and do recall being introduced to and liking music in the late 70s, so thought that would count from my reading of the OP. If not, kindly disregard. :)
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^I'm 64, so my list followed your OP.

LOL  A bit late, but I think that I got your point now, meaning, you're one of the old boys, this thread is intended for, so in that way you've followed my OP.

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^ Another way the wires could get crossed. That reminds me, I had meant to mention ELO way back on page two of this thread -- ah, the memories, that takes me back to yesterday. Now I'm feeling nostalgic for yesterday, when all my troubles seemed so far away. My older brother, as usual, bought that A New World Record album and I remember hearing it when wee (not when weeing). He also had bought a Simon Says game and the cover had reminded me of that. ELO was one of the first pop/rock bands I remember getting into as a weeing lad.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

"Whoa, take 'er easy there, Pilgrim."

Wasn't Jeff Wayne a star of Westerns?

Or maybe I'm thinking of Clint Wayne.



Seriously speaking, since ELO was mentioned, right after, and that has Jeff Lynne, it is for me a very understandable mistake. That kind of transposition happens to me commonly. I have two things in mind and they get jumbled together. I am aware of the error when I look back on it, but it's just the wires getting crossed. It's a very common occurrence in people.

Do Ya think it could have been Jeff Lynne's New War of the World Records? Tongue



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