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Originally posted by DarksideofAbel DarksideofAbel wrote:

So no prog at all before ITCOTCK? Really? No, I don't really agree with that I'm afraid. KC is in my top 10 (maybe even top 5) but not my favorite. 
 Well, I see the Nice, Floyd, The Moodies Blues, Traffic, Zappa had debut albums in 1967!, however was that prog? in my humble opinion I don't think so!! that was a mix o psychedelia music, avant garde , fusion? acid rock? O whatever it was called?.
Crimson made the first real prog rock album with all the correct ingredients

So what are the correct ingredients?! Confused


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Originally posted by Valdez Valdez wrote:

Whether anyone likes it or not... The big three in this order

King Crimson  Pink Floyd
YES
Genesis

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I agree that King Crimsons pre Belew era are Prog landmark albums. Yes and Genesis, ELP, gentle giant, moody blues, Hawkwind.

There is just too much good Prog out there to choose from nowadays. 25-30 years ago everyone jumped on PTREE and TOOL styled metal mix and have been imitating ever since. it’s hard to pick out the real NEW styles but they are out there. Some of the most interesting new stuff is hot for a minute only to be replaced by the next in line. Like Real Estate, I think the market is saturated with product … not enough buyers.

Our generation saw the best of it in huge arenas, with big record deals and larger than life bands. We had FM radio to drag us in. Cool bigass stereo systems to play it on. It was really something. You could see BOC and ELP for 8.50 and a screaming light show. It was the best of times. I like porcupine tree, the music is good. The subject matter is sufferingly psychologically pathetic ,and that was interesting too… for a minute. It was imitated to death. Still is after 25 years. Kind of a downer.
What I hear mostly today (in Prog) is based on 6 past styles…
Porcupine tree
King crimson
Tool
Radiohead
Yes
Tangerine dream
Ask any Gynecologist… even the best things become mundane after overexposure. But somehow King Crimson and Yes have managed to enjoy repeated plays for a long long time.

My opinion today… could change after another beer.



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Hell, basically all of music died when the 70's did....... no nostalgia clouding my memory here either, under 30 years old and can still recognize that music stopped being about music when the 80's began

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Originally posted by ProgSynonym ProgSynonym wrote:

Bro, ‘In the Court of the Crimson King’ really sets that same vibe as what evolved into ‘In the Wake of Poseidon’, man. But already ‘Lizard’ is like on a whole different wave compared to ItCotCK and ItWoP, while on the other side of the proggy spectrum, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, along with a whole bunch of other keys-driven bands, just kept that groovy sound rolling from ‘68 with The Nice all the way through the late ‘70s, you dig?
Yeah, Fripp and his everchanging King Crimson moved on and evolved into something different. Everyone knows. You don't seem to actually read what I've writen before you reply with something of little relevance to the point I'm trying to get across - so now it's time for me to move on as well.
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Originally posted by Snikle Snikle wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

I have heard The Who, but they are not prog. Howe is the guitarist for Yes and he is good. But What? Never heard of them.





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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

I have heard The Who, but they are not prog. Howe is the guitarist for Yes and he is good. But What? Never heard of them.


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I wonder if her hoo-ha hair is as fuzzy. :3


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^Dude you could use her armpit hair as a Brillo pad, bro.
I wonder if her hoo-ha hair is as fuzzy. :3
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If we're going to call each other "Man" on here, can we at least say it like Man!!

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Originally posted by ProgSynonym ProgSynonym wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^I've owned that one for decades as well and yes it's a stronger contender than USA. Beautiful album. But while the sound is just right, all the songs are relatively short and underdeveloped (as compared to ambitious prog compositions) so for me another building block, like early Moody Blues, Procol Harum, Zappa, Deep Purple and many more. In the Court... is simply a differnt beast all together (imo). Everything that would become 1970's Prog Rock can be found there. A musical revolution of sorts. Like Bitches Brew was for Jaz Rock Fusion (although there's albums released before, that paved way for it)
Yo dawg, if you’re lookin’ for some more tunes from the groovy era of progressive rock, I’d suggest you check out 'Ars Longa Vita Brevis' by The Nice. Man, this album from ‘68 is a total vibe for all you music lovers out there, especially if you dig those albums from the early phase of prog-rock. Yo, grab your headphones and get ready to vibe to those sick tunes by The Nice, man! Buckle up for a gnarly journey through the history of progressive music, dude!
'Ars Longa Vita Brevis,' droppin’ in ‘68, is like the OG of the sick sounds you’d hear in the Prog Rock scene of the ‘70s. This album came out a year before 'In the Court of the Crimson King' blew up, and it’s a total time capsule of musical genius and mind-blowing vibes.
The Nice’s 'Ars Longa Vita Brevis' is like a hidden treasure that set the stage for that signature Prog Rock sound. By vibin’ with this album, you’ll really get a feel for where this genre came from and how it evolved.
Yo dawg. If I wasn't already aware of The Nice I wouldn't (or shouldn't) be so self confident about knowing my stuff. Before you make another comeback with... oh I don't know something like 50 Foot Hose - Cauldron - maybe you should look up the meaning of the word calcify. You obviously don't have to agree with me, but I've listened to pretty much everything of relevance, and my opinion is based on an extensive knowledge of the era. Don't get me wrong, Ars Longa Vita Brevis is Progressive Rock, and I think of a lot of albums from 1966-1969 qualifies as such. But when I wrote:
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

I do think that what "we" normally think of as classic Prog Rock was calcified with ITCOTCK.
...that's exactly what I mean by it. Compared to KC's debut, that The Nice album was a dead end. It's not the sound of what Prog Rock was to become. In the Court... is.


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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by ProgSynonym ProgSynonym wrote:

Yo dawg, if you’re lookin’ for some more tunes from the groovy era of progressive rock




That swingin Fox really butters my bread man.
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Originally posted by ProgSynonym ProgSynonym wrote:

Yo dawg, if you’re lookin’ for some more tunes from the groovy era of progressive rock



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Whether anyone likes it or not... The big three in this order

King Crimson 
YES
Genesis

Just the way it is.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2024 at 10:14
Originally posted by ProgSynonym ProgSynonym wrote:

Originally posted by DarksideofAbel DarksideofAbel wrote:

2024 What is still the best Prog Rock band ever? 
King Crimson
Prog was born in 1969 with In The Court of The Crimson King.
Agreed? O Disagreed? 
Give your Opinion. Embarrassed

Dude, Prog didn’t even kick off with King Crimson, man. In the liner notes of Caravan’s first album, they actually dropped the term ‘progressive rock’ for the first time in a text. And you know what? That’s some real deal prog stuff from way back in 1968, bro.





Yo, dude, there’s like a ton of sick modern progressive tunes going down these days. Even those underground modern prog bands are straight-up mind-blowing with their vibes. But hey, my pick would be Gong, man. They’re part of that OG Canterbury scene and still kicking it despite all the lineup changes. That’s just how Gong rolls, keeping it democratic and all. They’re still dropping some rad tracks and rocking out at gigs.


I too think that prog is born before ITCOTCK.  
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^I've owned that one for decades as well and yes it's a stronger contender than USA. Beautiful album. But while the sound is just right, all the songs are relatively short and underdeveloped (as compared to ambitious prog compositions) so for me another building block, like early Moody Blues, Procol Harum, Zappa, Deep Purple and many more. In the Court... is simply a differnt beast all together (imo). Everything that would become 1970's Prog Rock can be found there. A musical revolution of sorts. Like Bitches Brew was for Jaz Rock Fusion (although there's albums released before, that paved way for it)


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