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does anyone here fw Rock In Opposition/Avant-Prog? |
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duchamp ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: December 25 2023 Location: the north pole Status: Offline Points: 73 |
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would the residents be considered prog?
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12407 |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Online Points: 21576 |
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For what it's worth, I dg r/a.
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12407 |
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Not as obsessively as I once did:) - all those
Kerman projects I just don't listen to anymore. But I still love and listen
to: The Residents (1972-1983), Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Non Credo, Lard
Free, Hellebore, After Dinner, Guapo, Dün, Picchio Dal Pozzo, Secret Chiefs 3, Aksak Maboul, Wha-Ha-Ha ... oh and Henry Cow of course...
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37188 |
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Yes, I frolic wildly to RIO/ Avant Prog. The most important RIO band has been Art Zoyd to me, but I also find Univers Zero and Henry Cow especially to be very fan worthy. And lots I love in Avant-Prog generally. It, along with Krautrock, Zeuhl, Post-Rock and various others like acid folk and Canterbury Scene, and quite a bit of JRF, is one of my particular favourite categories.
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20411 |
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I wouldn't say it was my go-to, but at one point, I was really into exploring much of it: thankfully my library system (now nearly defunct) had loads of those artistes in their catalogues. I think that at one point, I kind of overdosed on avant/rock/prog bands and sort of jumped off the train, and haven't found the wish to jump back on it since. Much of what I explored has been reviewed by me on PA, and I'm not sure that I would agree nowadays with what I wrote back then, should I relisten to those albums.
Today, I can still spin some: Akinaton Ritard, Aksak (early stuff) Aquaserge Alamaailman DAAU (their latest is on ly list for 2023) Aranis Art Bears & Zoyd Lindsey Cooper Debile Menthol/Ensemble Rayé/Nimal Etron Fou Far corner Finnegan's Wake Fire! (their latest is on my top list) Henry Cow (and associated) Koyry Kone Infonie Interference Sardine Miriodor Rouge Ciel Justine/Klaxon Gueule/Wondeur G-Brass Massacre Zorn (the Masada stuff mainly) Muffins News From Babel Panzerpappa Plastic People Univers Zero & Présent (most likely their respective latest will get lots of spins) Samla MM (& further stuff) Stormy Six Stephen Thelen Vortex ... and a few more but TBH, the spins have become scarcer in recent years .
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Lumenko ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 28 2023 Location: Donaubecken Status: Offline Points: 1196 |
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Those who prefer the folkier side of the RIO/Avant genre, i.e., bands such as Etron Fou Leloublan or Zamla Mammaz Manna, should have a great time with the former Yugoslav band Begnagrad and their eponymous album from 1982. Begnagrad's sound is characterised in the booklet of the Mio Records 2003 remastered CD edition as "Euro-folk avant-rock." That highly recommended release includes four bonus tracks, and its enhanced section has a 20-minute film clip of the band's 1983 concert held at an open-air festival in the former Yugoslav Socialistic Republic of Slovenia, where they actually came from. |
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Tapfret ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8614 |
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Its definitely "f**k with".
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7411 |
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I believe it is a lazy way to say "follow." The English language is changing before our eyes, thanks to "text" language. I've had university professors tell me that their students write entire papers using it. Terms like OMG (Oh my God) are in common usage. Of course, the word "okay" was generated from a contraction for "all correct," so we've been down this path. GBF!
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I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!!
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AJ Junior ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 11 2021 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 253 |
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my favorite RIO band is Dün. check this out:
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"Together We Stand, Divided We Fall"
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29402 |
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Looked it up and it's social media slang apparently and extremely poor use of language IMO |
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 15342 |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15555 |
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I'm definitely a beginner in this genre, but for other beginners I could recommend Univers Zero's Clivages (2010).
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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Frank Zappa, Mike Keneally, Aria Palea, Djam Karet. Great musical genre.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Online Points: 21576 |
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What‘s “fw”?
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 52593 |
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I lean both ways. I'm a big fan of both symphonic prog and avant-prog. Present, Thinking Plague, Horse Lords, 5uu's, and Henry Cow are among my favorite bands of the genre. I've also taken a liking to the avant-prog stuff coming out of France, such as PoiL, ni, and Le Grand Sbam. Totally agree with others that the most innovative bands are coming from the avant areas, but I also like my share of retro too. I can be vast, like a four-slice toaster, or soupy, like an eight-wheeled Winnebago.
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i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
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Jacob Schoolcraft ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 22 2021 Location: NJ Status: Offline Points: 1240 |
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I greatly enjoy the music of Art Zoyd and Univers Zero. The first Far Corner album is great and I Love Miriodor. I find Julverne fascinating.
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Lumenko ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 28 2023 Location: Donaubecken Status: Offline Points: 1196 |
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Regarding contemporary stuff, these days I really enjoy the music by the Ukrainian band Gravitsapa. They released this album in February 2023. It is strongly recommended!
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duchamp ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: December 25 2023 Location: the north pole Status: Offline Points: 73 |
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i fw this: this seems beefhearty (lick my decals era, not trout mask era). it's a bit conventional though but the vibes there :3
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