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Posted: October 18 2005 at 06:33

Led Zeppelin is prog, at least as much as Uriah Heep.
And don't forget Zep used the theremin!

I know the pieces fit cuz I watched them fall away.

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Posted: October 18 2005 at 06:22

So,your ONLY requirement for a band to be prog is for all the musicians to be very talented?

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Posted: October 18 2005 at 06:17

Zep should be here without a question. And preferably without the painful stigma of "proto-prog".

For one, I used to sing Zep covers in my youth. That's quiet a challenge and the vocals of Plant are truly exceptional and groundbreaking, qualifying for prog any day. That's not mentioning the rest of the extremely inspiring and talented musicians featured - on the side.....

Now, if anyone would want to include them as proto-metal...? I'd rather do away with that "proto" nonsense in the first place. PROnTO!

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Posted: October 18 2005 at 06:15

TheProgtologist wrote:

Andrea Cortese wrote:

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So....let's put them in because they had a FEW songs with slightly proggy moments?????

Yeesh

If not included we would lose that their proggy moments!!!!

For me Friends and Kashmir are only the most evident examples!

I am sorry if I seemed rude but I have never attempted to hide my utter disdain for the prog related and proto prog categories.

I think they provide a very large umbrella under which all kinds of bands,who are in NO WAY prog,could be construed as prog.

Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands,but they had far more of an influence on the development of hard rock/heavy metal than progressive rock.

I also don't think a band should be included here because a song or two in their large body of work is considered proggy.

Don't worry! It's always a pleasure to discuss with a person who has different opinions!

I only want to underline the fact that in the prog scenario's reality not always all is white or black!

Also the historic prog bands had had non prog albums (Yes and Genesis, for example, not VdGG, nor Peter Hammill!).

So to be absolutely correct we should remove all their albums that is difficult to fit in the prog category!

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Posted: October 18 2005 at 06:13

NOOOO!!!!! Meaning I agree with the No's!!!!

Led Zep are a favourite group of mine and whilist one or two songs might have some prog attributes they are not a prog band. Whether or not certain other bands like Deep Purple should be included on a prog site is a different question........

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Posted: October 18 2005 at 06:08

Andrea Cortese wrote:

TheProgtologist wrote:

So....let's put them in because they had a FEW songs with slightly proggy moments?????

Yeesh

If not included we would lose that their proggy moments!!!!

For me Friends and Kashmir are only the most evident examples!

I am sorry if I seemed rude but I have never attempted to hide my utter disdain for the prog related and proto prog categories.

I think they provide a very large umbrella under which all kinds of bands,who are in NO WAY prog,could be construed as prog.

Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands,but they had far more of an influence on the development of hard rock/heavy metal than progressive rock.

I also don't think a band should be included here because a song or two in their large body of work is considered proggy.

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Posted: October 18 2005 at 06:03

TheProgtologist wrote:

So....let's put them in because they had a FEW songs with slightly proggy moments?????

Yeesh

If not included we would lose that their proggy moments!!!!

For me Friends and Kashmir are only the most evident examples!

Edited by Andrea Cortese

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Posted: October 18 2005 at 05:57

So....let's put them in because they had a FEW songs with slightly proggy moments?????

Yeesh

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Posted: October 18 2005 at 05:54

dima_olkov wrote:

I thought maybe it's a good idea to include LZ to Progarchives list...

Let's see - Deep Purple is here, Queen, Styx...

I think Zeppelin should be either Proto-prog or Prog Related.

Many of their songs have prog elements. Just a couple of examples:

1) Ocean - unusual time signature

2) Song remains the same, Stairway to heaven, No quarter (great song)!!

3) Quite many long songs... sometimes very complicated onces..

If Deep Purple is proto-prog, led zeppelin should be there too..

What do you think?

Kashmir is my Led Zep favourite song!!!!

Led Zeppelin III's Friends is another great gem!

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Posted: October 18 2005 at 05:51

I love Zep but NO.This has been discussed and debated many times over,use the search feature to see how many threads deal with this subject.

Again...........NO

And IMO the Deep Purple addition was wrong too.

And don't start up the whole Queen and Styx debate again,what a mess that was.

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Posted: October 18 2005 at 02:59

I thought maybe it's a good idea to include LZ to Progarchives list...

Let's see - Deep Purple is here, Queen, Styx...

I think Zeppelin should be either Proto-prog or Prog Related.

Many of their songs have prog elements. Just a couple of examples:

1) Ocean - unusual time signature

2) Song remains the same, Stairway to heaven, No quarter (great song)!!

3) Quite many long songs... sometimes very complicated onces..

If Deep Purple is proto-prog, led zeppelin should be there too..

What do you think?

PF, Genesis, KC, Yes, VdGG, GG, Camel, Jethro Tull