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Organic and non-Poppish Progressive Metal? |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15555 |
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Yeah, I'm just about finding Songs for Insects to be qualified adding to my exclusive collection, and here's a sample from this definitely remarkable album: |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15555 |
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After 6 listenings, I begin to really get into and like this very complex and impressive but not easy to access work of the more early Prog Metal. |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21576 |
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^ I guess so, I'm interpreting them literally
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15555 |
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Sorry, Mike, but you interpret my posts like the devil reads the bible, and yes, I am picky and not least with the cover art.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21576 |
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That's not the issue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive_behavior You also reject recommendations for surprising reasons. "Meh - the cover art is too colorful". I mean, you could have stated up-front that you're really picky with cover art. But of course that would lead to practically zero recommendations, since nothing really fits your rigid criteria which nobody can predict. That makes it almost appear like your asking for recommendations only to then be able to criticise them.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15555 |
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Thanks for this interesting input, Necrotica. |
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Necrotica ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Colaborator Joined: July 28 2015 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3407 |
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^ I mean, it doesn't help that your original criteria was so hyper-specific. You're not really gonna find a lot of artists in such a narrow field of options like that
Most of the non-"synthetic" prog metal artists fall into prog-death or prog-thrash territory, the majority of which use harsh vocals Also, I find it interesting that you don't want maudlin or sentimental vocals, but then put Lateralus on your list. Don't get me wrong, I love Lateralus, but it's pretty poppy/alternative-leaning for prog metal
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15555 |
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Sorry for having other tastes and preferences than yours.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21576 |
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^ this seems like a really sophisticated form of trolling - have the busy helpers scramble and provide suggestions, only to reject most of them.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45622 |
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How are the vocals too sentimental?! What have you listened to come to such a conclusion?! ![]() Explore the progressive metal lists and its subgenres, go to youtube and search a few titles, listen a little bit and get back to us. I don't know...
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21576 |
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^ may I suggest you buy a microphone and record your vacuum cleaning session? Totally unique, definitely not sentimental, and no growling vocals either. Try to do funny walks, that will also take care of complex time signatures!
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15555 |
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Not the albums I've heard, too sentimental, and Riverside's Second Life Syndrome is on the borderline.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45622 |
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Or some have not understood your initial post. Non-poppish?! What does that even mean? What kind of vocals are those?! Catchy vocals does not equal pop vocals. And what kind of pop vocals? Classic pop? Modern pop? Fairly clean? ![]() ![]() Does Pain Of Salvation qualify? They got an amazing vocalist, and their songwriting I find excellent. Riverside has catchy vocals, and yet you listed an album of theirs. ![]() |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15555 |
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This thread may so far seem to confirm my up till now experience that albums of organic, non-Poppish and more straight Progressive Metal with fairly clean vocals have not been made in a very large number.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15555 |
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Yes, it's about the kind I'm looking for, and it's also about to become one of the greatest Prog Metal classics, so it's very good to include it here. I can thus certainly understand your fondness of this album too, I'm afraid though that personally, I don't find it to be that good or particularly original. - But I may give it some more spins and see what I then think. It would be a nice addition to my Metal collection, even I'm not very fond of the flashy and very colourful artwork, and can't get it fit with the music.
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I'm not sure if my recommendation satisfies your requirements, but a favourite metal album of mine is "Crack the Skye" by Mastodon. They are listed in PA under Tech/Extreme Prog Metal, so I guess that means they do have tracks with growling vocals. On "Crack the Skye", there is only one track with growling vocals. The vocals on the other tracks are not necessarily clean, but they are not growling. I especially love the Sabbathesque sound of a number of their tracks. The two tracks below are highlights for me:
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15555 |
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^ Frankly speaking, the band name alone is too silly to me. ![]() Edit: Anyway, it inspired me to give King Gizzard a new listen with another album, and this one too. Edited by David_D - August 29 2023 at 04:17 |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15555 |
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After two listenings, I find this album almost amazingly creative due to its many different influences and large complexity. Also definitely interesting, so I'll give it some more spins and see what I further think and how much I like it. ![]() |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15555 |
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I guess, I better add that I'm looking for the "Progressive Metal" the way it's defined and labeled by RYM, and is the more straight Prog Metal. Edited by David_D - August 29 2023 at 11:53 |
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