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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


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To be honest, I don't remember I've ever heard any, and if so, it should be because the production was so bad, so it would be 
better to listen to it on CD, as vinyl would be more revealing, and even if the CD would make some jitter.




If anything, a vinyl record would mask bad production more, as long as the record/stylus are in bad enough shape. In reality, it wouldn't really matter probably. Jitter has nothing to do with this.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2023 at 13:58

But wait a minute, after the first chok, I now think about that I prefer much to listen to a lot of albums on CD instead of vinyl 
because thanks to my programmable CD player I can skip some tracks or listen to them in another order than the original 
- which I can prefer much with many albums, or otherwise I wouldn't simply be enough fond of them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2023 at 12:49

JD !!?? Evil Smile Wink

To be honest, I don't remember I've ever heard any, and if so, it should be because the production was so bad, so it would be 
better to listen to it on CD, as vinyl would be more revealing, and even if the CD would make some jitter.





Edited by David_D - August 04 2023 at 13:11
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If an album has to be broken up in two because of the limited length of a side, whereas normally music would continue on for the full 40, 50, whatever minutes. Funnily enough, King Gizzard, a band that seems to prefer vinyl heavily (to the point where the digital version of Omnium Gathering is literally a vinyl rip IIRC), makes albums that are worse off on vinyl. There's Nonagon Infinity, which is supposed to be played on loop, Murder of the Universe had its middle suite cut in half and split over 2 sides, PetroDragonic Apocaypse was a bit long for a vinyl album, so I suspect they split it up over 2 LPs (and filled the 4th side with a superfluous bonus track) to increase sound quality. Most of their other albums also flow from one song to the next in their CD/digital versions, so that obviously doesn't work on vinyl either.

Albums that are just long enough that they have to be split up on 4 sides instead of 2, creating very short sides is also a bit silly. And of course anything that was originally a bit too long for an LP, but still released in a single LP format would benefit from not being on vinyl. Something like some of Todd Rundgren's longer albums.

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Any album that was produced 100% digitally on a computer using software samplers. Like, Kodex I (2002) for example. There is no point in albums like that getting a vinyl release, cause the digital recording quality is not pristine to begin with and it wouldn't benefit from a conversion to analog.

Anything converted from digital to vinyl would be a downgrade, technically (not big enough to not do a vinyl), so anything from the last 40 years, when we started to record digitally, and practically any remaster on vinyl from that period would be worse off. Current LPs are just digital masters printed on vinyl, so strictly speaking there really isn't much reason to get anything from after 1980 or so on LP.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2023 at 11:28
Any album that was produced 100% digitally on a computer using software samplers. Like, Kodex I (2002) for example. There is no point in albums like that getting a vinyl release, cause the digital recording quality is not pristine to begin with and it wouldn't benefit from a conversion to analog.
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-I always listen to vinyl out loud from my speakers and I rarely do I care or notice such details. Lossless and such is usually listened to in a headset, and I guess I wouldn't want to listen to the vinyl version instead - in that context. So as long as the LP's are in good shape (which mine are) it's really about how I'm listening, and not what I'm listening to. My original pressing of Starless and Bible Black LP bought second hand sound perfect to me. Just like my 2015-lossless version does whenever playing from my speakers is not an option. 




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2023 at 10:47
Not really looking for lot of "technobabble" on the mediums, but here are my opening statements.

King Crimson - Starless and Bible Black

Given the extreme dynamics of the music, the subtle drum and guitar parts, I can't even imaging being able to get a copy of this title on LP that would compare to listening to it on CD. Every tick/pop/crackle of the vinyl would burn to my core.


ELP - Welcome Back My Friends (Live)
(and by extension, Tales from Topographic Oceans/Lamb Lies Down/Quadrophenia etc)

Having all the tracks in Lossless Files on a pod player and being able to sit there and let the concert happen un-interrupted couldn't really be achieved with LP's.

What else would make you prefer a version other than vinyl for your listening pleasure?
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