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Cygnus X-2
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Joined: December 24 2004
Location: Bucketheadland
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Points: 21342
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 01:24 |
Pafnutij wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Pafnutij wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ thank you for your opinion.
BTW: How old are you?
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16
That explains everything, doesn't it?
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I didn't mean to say that you're too young to know what you're saying.
The problem is: DSotM is a very controversial album. But there are enough people who think that it's a masterpiece. Many of these people are VERY experienced in prog. You are 16 years old ... I am 30 years old. Others are 20 years older than me, 34 years older than you. They were teenagers when that album was released. They have unique insights in the prog scene that you (or I) will never have. Many of them have witnessed Pink Floyd concerts (when the members of Pink Floyd were as young as current prog bands members are today).
Therefore it's foolish to say "DSotM is a bad album" ... you're not an authority, you don't decide that. The community here wrote many reviews of the album, and the result says: masterpiece.
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Well, I knew I'd stir up a bit of controversy there, but I myself don't take anything I say seriously, so I don't think anyone should
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Keep thinking like that, and you'll go far here!
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Pafnutij
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 02 2005
Location: Russian Federation
Status: Offline
Points: 415
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Posted: October 18 2005 at 10:20 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Pafnutij wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ thank you for your opinion.
BTW: How old are you?
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16
That explains everything, doesn't it?
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I didn't mean to say that you're too young to know what you're saying.
The problem is: DSotM is a very controversial album. But there are enough people who think that it's a masterpiece. Many of these people are VERY experienced in prog. You are 16 years old ... I am 30 years old. Others are 20 years older than me, 34 years older than you. They were teenagers when that album was released. They have unique insights in the prog scene that you (or I) will never have. Many of them have witnessed Pink Floyd concerts (when the members of Pink Floyd were as young as current prog bands members are today).
Therefore it's foolish to say "DSotM is a bad album" ... you're not an authority, you don't decide that. The community here wrote many reviews of the album, and the result says: masterpiece.
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Well, I knew I'd stir up a bit of controversy there, but I myself don't take anything I say seriously, so I don't think anyone should
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator
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Joined: April 22 2005
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 21328
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Posted: October 18 2005 at 02:05 |
Gabrielpenteado wrote:
i canīt imagine a heavy metal band playing space rock |
A "heavy metal band" ... I'm thinking of Black Sabbath when I read this.
BTW: Check out The Gathering ... a very good Space Metal band!
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Gabrielpenteado
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Joined: May 22 2005
Location: Brazil
Status: Offline
Points: 47
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Posted: October 18 2005 at 00:55 |
i canīt imagine a heavy metal band playing space rock
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Kingkay
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Joined: January 30 2005
Location: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 32
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 15:46 |
guess where i was last tuesday...
yes, i was at the heineken music hall watching dt performing dsotm and i can tell you it was THE highlight of my year.
i was actually close to crying while they were playing. fortunately i
could pull myself together, cuz crying at a metalshow is kinda odd
anyway, i really hope they'll release this show on dvd or whatever sometime, cuz i'd love to see it back.
btw, my dad was with me and he has seen floyd performing dsotm and he told me dt made it sound a lot better than floyd did.
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muffley_mirkin
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 18 2004
Location: Pitcairn
Status: Offline
Points: 118
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Posted: October 17 2005 at 08:29 |
Brilliant. Got my tickets for the 2nd night at Hammersmith already. Last time
i saw them play a whole album was Number Of The Beast a few years ago.
The Covered Cds from the DT website are well worth getting.
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Velvetclown
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 13 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 8548
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 23:42 |
Syzygy. I do understand that this event must have caused some inner turbulence.
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gok22us
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 19 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 219
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 22:13 |
Dark Side is allright. not bad by any means. not my fav. though
but Dream Theater.....possibly not playing 6000 notes a measure, is very interesting.
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The Miracle
Prog Reviewer
Joined: May 29 2005
Location: hell
Status: Offline
Points: 28427
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 16:41 |
I think Dark side is pretty overrated too, not at all my favorite PF album
But I'd love to hear mu beloved DT perform it
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Syzygy
Special Collaborator
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Joined: December 16 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 7003
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 14:23 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Abstrakt wrote:
DT performing breathe |
bleah...just imagining... |
Why all this negativity towards Dream Theater ... what did they do to you?
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I was once at a meeting with Mike Portnoy and when the tea and coffee were served he took 3 chocolate digestives, although there were only enough for each person present to have 1 each. I got stuck with a couple of stale Garibaldis thanks to that twin bass drum punishing biccie snatcher.
And if that isn't enough, James LaBrie is always 'borrowing' post it notes from my desk - even though his desk is nearer to the stationery cupboard! And I'm sure it was him who jammed up my stapler.
And as for that John Petrucci - whenever there's a box of chocolates going round he always starts on the second layer before the first layer is finished, he claims his doctor has told him to cut out caffeine so he can't have coffee creams and he's got a nut allergy so he can't have hazelnut whirls either.
So if I feel a little negative towards Dream Theater, it's only because I've experienced some major negativity issues coming from those guys myself.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Dick Heath
Special Collaborator
Jazz-Rock Specialist
Joined: April 19 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 12817
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 11:47 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ thank you for your opinion.
BTW: How old are you? |
Only reason I bought DSOTM on CD was because I read somebody thought
the remastered version would be good to check out and compare hifi when
a shop had listening room, because of audio depth and stereo
separation. He was right . Personally I
find the album, because of overplay by friends and the radio, has been
done to death - so I too find it boring and there's a phenomenal amount
of other music to get excited about. And boy do I wish I was 16 again -
knowing what I know
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Ricochet
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Joined: February 27 2005
Location: Nauru
Status: Offline
Points: 46301
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 10:42 |
I don't like them...that's all...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Joined: April 22 2005
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 21328
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 10:39 |
Ricochet wrote:
Abstrakt wrote:
DT performing breathe |
bleah...just imagining... |
Why all this negativity towards Dream Theater ... what did they do to you?
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Ricochet
Special Collaborator
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Joined: February 27 2005
Location: Nauru
Status: Offline
Points: 46301
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 10:36 |
Abstrakt wrote:
DT performing breathe |
bleah...just imagining...
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: April 22 2005
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 21328
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 10:32 |
Pafnutij wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ thank you for your opinion.
BTW: How old are you?
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16
That explains everything, doesn't it?
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I didn't mean to say that you're too young to know what you're saying.
The problem is: DSotM is a very controversial album. But there are enough people who think that it's a masterpiece. Many of these people are VERY experienced in prog. You are 16 years old ... I am 30 years old. Others are 20 years older than me, 34 years older than you. They were teenagers when that album was released. They have unique insights in the prog scene that you (or I) will never have. Many of them have witnessed Pink Floyd concerts (when the members of Pink Floyd were as young as current prog bands members are today).
Therefore it's foolish to say "DSotM is a bad album" ... you're not an authority, you don't decide that. The community here wrote many reviews of the album, and the result says: masterpiece.
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Abstrakt
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 18 2005
Location: Soundgarden
Status: Offline
Points: 18292
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 10:14 |
DT performing breathe
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Bj-1
Special Collaborator
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Joined: June 04 2005
Location: No(r)Way
Status: Offline
Points: 31578
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 10:08 |
Im 15 and DSOTM is my fave PF album!!
***** stars!!
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Ed_The_Dead
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 29 2005
Location: Poland
Status: Offline
Points: 4928
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 09:19 |
An Youre in a baaad and Evil mood all the time, me thinks... You should Try some Spiral Architect... That would cheer You up a bit...
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Ricochet
Special Collaborator
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Joined: February 27 2005
Location: Nauru
Status: Offline
Points: 46301
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 09:17 |
Yeah,I don't like...I'm bad,I'm evil...ha,ha,moving on...
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Ed_The_Dead
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Joined: April 29 2005
Location: Poland
Status: Offline
Points: 4928
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 09:15 |
^ But my fav romanian does not like DT... Bad Rino, BAAAAD RINOOOOO!!!
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