Your fave "avantgardish" Progressive Rock albums? - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Surely Voivod's Nothingface with its dissonant and complex sonic attack is a new challenge for me to listen to,

as well as the artwork is a challenge for my sensitive and in some ways conservative mind, even I also find

it to be very creative and one of the very best from the 80's. Plus that even I've got this album on vinyl,

the digital recording and mixing of it make the sound extra hard and "hitting". But I can imagine that after some

years and many listenings, I'll become very fond of this album - unless I'll become a bit too old for that kind. Big smile

Edited by David_D - October 18 2022 at 09:34

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Saperlipopette! wrote:

David_D wrote:

I'm curious about what people enjoy listening to Avant-Prog, as I suppose, it's not so much melody or rythm?

Themes over melodies I suppose. But rhytm is always there - and often more intriguing than in regular prog. Let me try and illustrate something. Carabosse is the wicked fairy godmother in Cinderella - also known as Maleficent. Listen to and feel the whole complete universe (heh) Universe Zero creates for you. Can't you see it? A nice melody would ruin the whole atmosphere.

Yes, sonic images or story telling, that's also what I experienced very much when listening to Henry Cow's Western Culture (1979).

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thanks to the both of you - interesting Smile

Edited by David_D - October 03 2022 at 14:07

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David_D wrote:

I'm curious about what people enjoy listening to Avant-Prog, as I suppose, it's not so much melody or rythm?

Themes over melodies I suppose. But rhytm is always there - and often more intriguing than in regular prog. Let me try and illustrate something. Carabosse is the wicked fairy godmother in Cinderella - also known as Maleficent. Listen to and feel the whole complete universe (heh) Universe Zero creates for you. Can't you see it? A nice melody would ruin the whole atmosphere.

Some music is perfect for this. That's why a lot of movie scores can resemble Avant-Prog.

Btw, concerning my use of "avantgardish", I'd say, Pawn Hearts is "avantgardish" comparing to H to He and Godbluff,

for not to talk about Still Life.

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David_D wrote:

nick_h_nz wrote:

Whether something is challenging has a lot to do with when someone encounters it.

Sure, but I think it has also to do with some fundamental psychological aspects and "social heritage", and as thus is different from person to person.

I’ve not said it’s not different from person to person. It’s absolutely different from person to person. But my point is that people change. There will be very few people on this forum that could honestly say they are the same person they were ten or twenty or thirty years ago. And “social heritage” is part of that, I guess, as our “social heritage” tends to change and broaden over time, as we tend to encounter more and more people who are different from us, and assimilate some of their “social heritage”.

Thus, what is challenging most definitely is different from person to person, even when those persons are only one individual. When something occurs in an individual’s lifetime, more than anything else, is what usually makes something challenging (or not) to that individual.

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tszirmay wrote:

David_D wrote:

tszirmay wrote:

Arnaud Bukwald ? Anyone else ?

Roxy Music ?

Well, when RM arrived on the scene with their debut, it was not only avant-garde but somewhat of a shocker , as it was rather falsely described as Sha Na na, meets Elvis Presley meets King Crimson (because of Sinfield producing I guess) .

I won't say that Roxy Music shocked me, even the outfit was certainly remarkable even for Glam Rock to be - and I was freshly arrived from an "East European" country.

Edited by David_D - August 21 2022 at 16:17

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David_D wrote:

tszirmay wrote:

Arnaud Bukwald ? Anyone else ?

Roxy Music ?

Well, when RM arrived on the scene with their debut, it was not only avant-garde but somewhat of a shocker , as it was rather falsely described as Sha Na na, meets Elvis Presley meets King Crimson (because of Sinfield producing I guess) . I have been a fanboy since day minus 5 (as my avatar may suggest) , so I cannot qualify it as "avant-garde" but for many, the first 2 albums are quite the ride....

I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.

Arnaud Bukwald ? Anyone else ?

I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.