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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Our WHOLE HOUSE is a She-Shed !
We did a huge reno/add-on about 10 years ago. While I was designing it I had indicated a 'Media Room' on the plan. Well, it became a family room with a fireplace and TV (read: my honey's reading room) and all my media ended up in my office along with additional furniture for our boy when he moves out.
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I guess I am lucky, my wife is perfectly fine with my taking over the down stairs for my music room. She would be fine if I had a system similar to the pic you posted......The second system is upstairs in the living room with my Epos Epic 2 speakers on stands. She would not care if I had 5,000 LPs either.....
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Our WHOLE HOUSE is a She-Shed !
We did a huge reno/add-on about 10 years ago. While I was designing it I had indicated a 'Media Room' on the plan. Well, it became a family room with a fireplace and TV (read: my honey's reading room) and all my media ended up in my office along with additional furniture for our boy when he moves out.
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

I was going to go this way with my set up...but Mrs JD had some other ideas. Unhappy



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I was going to go this way with my set up...but Mrs JD had some other ideas. Unhappy


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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

Interesting stuff here.

I have had an ESS Heil AMT-1 for 40 years. Both speakers have been re-coned twice here in Portland by Ja-Mac.

If you know these (look them up) they have a large 12 incher, and then an "air-motion" transformer on top of the cabinet. All the music flows from those two pieces.

So in my 1st visit to Ja-Mac I asked about a "mid-range" since the speaker shows the lows and the highs really well, and the transformer does not require a "mid-range" per se ... the old man (Ja-Mac himself -- I think his sons run it now) says ... "what for?"

These speakers were what sold me on getting them, when I brought Tangerine Dream's Phaedra album to the store to decide which speakers I wanted and that LP shined awesome in some speakers and really trashy in the cheaper stuff, and it was then that I knew the difference between the high level stuff and the low level crap. A year later I had to get a better receiver ... np ... got a massive one that lasted 30 years ... and helped make the stereo system damn good ... and if I had to? I could blow the folks next door out of town very quickly! Tongue
I bet, those are great speakers and could fetch $1500.00 on the used market easily depending on condition. You don't need a midrange driver, those speakers should be crossed over at a point that covers the lower and upper midrange. It just means the crossover is allowing the woofer to play higher up and the Heil tweeter to play lower, versus a 3-way speaker that would have a dedicated driver to play the midrange frequencies. 
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Hi,

Interesting stuff here.

I have had an ESS Heil AMT-1 for 40 years. Both speakers have been re-coned twice here in Portland by Ja-Mac.

If you know these (look them up) they have a large 12 incher, and then an "air-motion" transformer on top of the cabinet. All the music flows from those two pieces.

So in my 1st visit to Ja-Mac I asked about a "mid-range" since the speaker shows the lows and the highs really well, and the transformer does not require a "mid-range" per se ... the old man (Ja-Mac himself -- I think his sons run it now) says ... "what for?"

These speakers were what sold me on getting them, when I brought Tangerine Dream's Phaedra album to the store to decide which speakers I wanted and that LP shined awesome in some speakers and really trashy in the cheaper stuff, and it was then that I knew the difference between the high level stuff and the low level crap. A year later I had to get a better receiver ... np ... got a massive one that lasted 30 years ... and helped make the stereo system damn good ... and if I had to? I could blow the folks next door out of town very quickly! Tongue
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Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

Sorry, following the news over this horrible Ukraine thing kept me away from PA for a few days but I returned today and read through the whole discussion.
Thank you guys, contributions much appreciated !

I run my music from the computer with Foobar 2000 and have an Advance Acoustic pre- and power amps

feeding Sonus Faber Grand Pianos

which are really superb but leave me sometimes longing for a more intense and exciting audio atmosphere when I'm in just that kind of mood that requires it.

Would the sub deliver that little extra juice ? From your comments it seems like it will, I'll report later my experience, cheers.





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^ I'll keep that in mind, for sure ! (thks again)

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Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

^ Well, mister, that was just the extra info I was looking for (btw it's the Domus and Foo with lossless FLACs).

It happens I found the SVS dealer is just half an hour ride from where I live and they have a showroom, so...I will soon be on a Special Audio Mission ! (let's see if they allow me to bring home an unit on lease, the SF are too big to carry to the SR)

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Sounds good......If your strictly going for 2-channel then I suggest staying with sealed subs, a ported sub is mainly for HT setup. A ported sub might be tuned to go lower but at the expense of a more boominess sound, which is fine for HT but not 2-channel......Again, unless that is what you want. Also the ported boxes are bigger, below is the SB2000 and PB2000 from SVS both with 12" drivers, big difference.

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^ Well, mister, that was just the extra info I was looking for (btw it's the Domus and Foo with lossless FLACs).

It happens I found the SVS dealer is just half an hour ride from where I live and they have a showroom, so...I will soon be on a Special Audio Mission ! (let's see if they allow me to bring home an unit on lease, the SF are too big to carry to the SR)

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Originally posted by Dark Ness Dark Ness wrote:

Sorry, following the news over this horrible Ukraine thing kept me away from PA for a few days but I returned today and read through the whole discussion.
Thank you guys, contributions much appreciated !

I run my music from the computer with Foobar 2000 and have an Advance Acoustic pre- and power amps

feeding Sonus Faber Grand Pianos

which are really superb but leave me sometimes longing for a more intense and exciting audio atmosphere when I'm in just that kind of mood that requires it.

Would the sub deliver that little extra juice ? From your comments it seems like it will, I'll report later my experience, cheers.

The picture looks like the Grand Piano Domus, the Grand Piano don't have that many drivers. Regardless the Domus is 30Hz and the other is 35Hz for low end, which is very good on it's own.
So that being said you need a sub that will extend well below 30Hz to make it effective. That's why I chose SVS subs (sealed) as my model is rated down to 19Hz.
If your using Foobar to play lossy files then your not going to gain anything......What happens in these cases is users will simply increase the sub gain and "think" they are hearing low end bass when all they are doing is increasing gain around 150-200Hz and it sounds really bad with just a bunch of boominess.
You should never hear the sub with your mains.....
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Sorry, following the news over this horrible Ukraine thing kept me away from PA for a few days but I returned today and read through the whole discussion.
Thank you guys, contributions much appreciated !

I run my music from the computer with Foobar 2000 and have an Advance Acoustic pre- and power amps

feeding Sonus Faber Grand Pianos

which are really superb but leave me sometimes longing for a more intense and exciting audio atmosphere when I'm in just that kind of mood that requires it.

Would the sub deliver that little extra juice ? From your comments it seems like it will, I'll report later my experience, cheers.



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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Perhaps he went deaf.

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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Maybe it's that subwoofer causing that tinnitusLOL

Anyway, I notice the OP has not responded to any comments. Soooo.....
No, it causes sterility. The ELF's really do a number on the 'ol tadpoles I hear. Wink


Edited by JD - February 28 2022 at 15:40
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Perhaps he went deaf.
Guess he needs treatment. 
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Perhaps he went deaf.
Guess he needs treatment. 
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Perhaps he went deaf.
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Maybe it's that subwoofer causing that tinnitus. LOL

Anyway, I notice the OP has not responded to any comments. Soooo.....


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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Interesting.
My tinnitus has been pretty prevalent for the last few years. My wife loves to read and prefers silence, which I guess I understand. But that only makes the tinnitus more distracting. That's why I always like to have something playing above the tinnitus amplitude.  Think of it as JDolby.

I'm a classic case of loud concerts from back in the late 70s to now, as a teen never wearing ear protection at concerts and always fighting to get up front. Listening to loud music in the car, mainly cassette tapes and of course headphones at home at night......About 15yrs ago really noticed it coming on and I now wear ear protection at concerts as well when mowing my lawn or any loud machines. I listen with noise cancelling HP on planes but very low volume.
Sitting in front of the system at home it's rare I get above 90dB....where I do I buy the JDolby program!! LOL
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Interesting.
My tinnitus has been pretty prevalent for the last few years. My wife loves to read and prefers silence, which I guess I understand. But that only makes the tinnitus more distracting. That's why I always like to have something playing above the tinnitus amplitude.  Think of it as JDolby.
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