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Philchem8
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By the way, Philchem, if you haven't seen yet my top 160 Prog albums all-time made in 2019 on basis of all the ratings on RYM and PA, and you could be interested, it can be seen starting in this thread: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=127673 . Thanks for your replies..and you can call me Phil. Yes, I have checked out that list a couple of times. It's a good list, useful when I'm looking for some new stuff to listen to. Although, since you only include one album per band, it excludes many classic albums. Not sure that I would start a discussion on defining what is a "great classic", but I'm certainly interested in how you (and others who are interested) perceive this and if you are aware of any other sources that would help to determine what is a great classic prog album. Edited by Philchem8 - February 19 2022 at 13:35 |
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But he was very helpful. Edited by David_D - February 19 2022 at 07:03 |
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LOL. I had to doubletake your enigmatic enigmatic word play. You so funny, Paul.
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David_D
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But I still like you, Cristi, and believe in the Good.
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David_D
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I could discuss these question here with you as well, if you could be interested, and I could start with those of my thoughts which led to my definition here.
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David_D
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By the way, Philchem, if you haven't seen yet my top 160 Prog albums all-time made in 2019 on basis of all the ratings on RYM and PA, and you could be interested, it can be seen starting in this thread: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=127673 . Edited by David_D - February 18 2022 at 13:42 |
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David_D
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Yes, I find this question very interesting as well, but that would certainly need an own thread which I'd be happy to join in if you start it.
Yes, it would be quite time demanding, but the most important question here is what this list could tell. As far as I've observed it, people here list often not only according to their taste but due to other reasons, too. And thank you very much for your contributing here.
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After a while, it could be interesting to list the 20 albums that have been the most mentioned and the number of members who have participated, to get an overall idea of the tastes of this community....but you would need to have some time on your hands
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It would be interesting to discuss how different people define what they consider to be "great classics", but I'll come back to that at the end of my list. I've limited myself to prog-rock (or at least progish) albums from the UK (as instructed). Now I could have included all 7 Genesis prog albums in my top 20, but in order to make room for other bands, I've limited Genesis to 4. So, in alphabetical order:
Aqualung - Jethro Tull Ashes Are Burning - Renaissance The Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd Days of Future Passed - The Moody Blues Foxtrot - Genesis In the Court of the Crimson King - King Crimson Islands - King Crimson (some critics see it as one of their worst from their early years - I beg to differ) In Search of the Lost Chord - The Moody Blues In the Wake of Poseidon - King Crimson The Kick Inside - Kate Bush (not sure it's prog, but close enough) Moonmadness - Camel Nursery Cryme - Genesis Phantasmagoria - Curved Air A Salty Dog - Procol Harum Selling England By the Pound - Genesis The Snow Goose - Camel Stand Up - Jethro Tull Wind & Wuthering - Genesis Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd The Yes Album - Yes All these albums have a score of at least 3.6 (or very close to that in 2 cases) on RateYour Music and a relatively significant amount of votes, a score of at least 3.7 on on ProArchives (except for one) and at least 4 stars by AllMusic Guide (except for one). This may set the bar a bit low for you, but I consider 3.6 on RYM a relatively high rating, albeit not stellar - several of the ELP albums others have included here get about that. Now it's of course debatable what is a "great classic" anyway and beyond about the top 50 prog albums, I think the opinions of critics and audiences start diverging significantly. One of the best ranking of prog-albums I've seen is a list of 367 albums on RYM made by someone called alexanderkein. What is interesting about this list is that it takes account ratings from a variety sources (ProgArchives, RYM, Acclaimed Music, Rolling Stones, Cosmos Rock etc.), rather than basing itself on the preferences of one individual or one poll. Not sure about the methodology used though. Prog Magazine's top 100 prog albums list is pretty good too. |
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I certainly had some good expectations for this thread, but I never imagined that it would become such a good story - came to his mind while listning to No Earthly Connection Edited by David_D - February 18 2022 at 11:47 |
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So afterall, I guess that I have made a conclusion. Edited by David_D - February 18 2022 at 11:44 |
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Oh, you're still not over that? It was just an observation. Rednight was rude to Paul and you were rude to Rednight. It's just stating the facts.
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I apologized to you twice already in PMs, for accidentally hurting your feelings. But then again you get very easily upset. So if you did not forgive me yet, I give up. Also mentioning me out of the blue, here () is a personal attack. I do not know what I have to apologize for, having a different opinion than you in some context? Do you want to find a solution to our misunderstanding in a private message, or do you want it here in the open forum? I could do it either way, but be ready for any results that will come out of that. I think you owe me an apology as well. If you don't know why, I could remind you. Do you want me to remind you here or in a PM?
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This thread has got really many views even considering the fact that it's one of "mine" (imho), and it might be that somebody gets a reputation as notorious while I think, it would be appropriate with an apology - or what do you think, Cristi? Edited by David_D - February 18 2022 at 08:13 |
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And you have passion for Gentle Giant in common, while I won't forget his telling me: "stick to your guns, David". Edited by David_D - February 18 2022 at 07:19 |
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