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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

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We were talking about this the other day, not her involvement, but the cult. Wiley Brooks, in this article, lived in Santa Cruz for a time (during the 80's, when I did as well), and lots of locals fell for his schtick and lost a ton of money along the way.  Stupid is as stupid does.

Nice to know Brooks "supplemented" his lifestyle/belief with frequent late night runs to convenience stores. LOL

I bet all those Cheetos and fountain drinks helped him focus. Wink

Yes, which I found hysterically funny when he got caught.  
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

A new, short article a few slides long about Michelle Pfeiffer's brief involvement in the early 1980s with a cult started by a couple who founded "'Breatharianism' — the belief that humans can train themselves to live on light and air and have no need for food or water."


We were talking about this the other day, not her involvement, but the cult. Wiley Brooks, in this article, lived in Santa Cruz for a time (during the 80's, when I did as well), and lots of locals fell for his schtick and lost a ton of money along the way.  Stupid is as stupid does.

Nice to know Brooks "supplemented" his lifestyle/belief with frequent late night runs to convenience stores. LOL

I bet all those Cheetos and fountain drinks helped him focus. Wink
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

A new, short article a few slides long about Michelle Pfeiffer's brief involvement in the early 1980s with a cult started by a couple who founded "'Breatharianism' — the belief that humans can train themselves to live on light and air and have no need for food or water."


We were talking about this the other day, not her involvement, but the cult. Wiley Brooks, in this article, lived in Santa Cruz for a time (during the 80's, when I did as well), and lots of locals fell for his schtick and lost a ton of money along the way.  Stupid is as stupid does.
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A new, short article a few slides long about Michelle Pfeiffer's brief involvement in the early 1980s with a cult started by a couple who founded "'Breatharianism' — the belief that humans can train themselves to live on light and air and have no need for food or water."

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I've had a history of being subjected to the occult. I find some of that history to be an intrusion on my life as a musician. Imposed upon would be a better description. All my time went into learning an instrument while being surrounded by people who generally followed the left hand path.


From 1972 onward, ( until I lost track in the 90s), several cults practiced the Menantico cult ritual. During the early 70s in Vineland NJ there were rumors along with people involving the police to take action.


I believe they were teenagers belonging to their own Satan cults. Some of them claiming to have a copy of the Satanic Bible. The Church Of Satan supposedly had little to do with your spirit or Judeo-Christian concepts, demons or Gods..unless you wanted to be a God. Perhaps they were picking apart the Satanic Bible to apply it to their own agenda.


Everything I experienced was ridiculously drastic and is best represented on the first 10 minutes of the film Menantico Blues. The film is free on YouTube. The actors are portrayed as Hillbillies during the narration. In a sense this distracts any notion of taking the story seriously. ..however every detail they give about the ritualistic killing is accurate.

Particularly when they point out that there were cults...with an S...different groups assembled in these places. That's what I witnessed and it's definitely accurate to say so on film during this 10 minute documentary on the Menantico cult.

This being the first time the case was covered on film.


Shortly after the Menantico cult killing police found several dolls tied to trees in Franklin Township which borders with Vineland NJ. On the dolls were notes with local women's names attached. The notes read they would die via magic. The State Troopers assembled a investigation team and searched for what the newspapers were calling a "Voodoo Cult" The investigation was terminated after a few months based on lack of physical evidence. This supposedly had nothing to do with the Menantico Cult.


Charles Pangburn was interrogating members of the Chestnut Assembly Of God church insisting that they were either behind or tied into many of the strange and disturbing events that took place in Vineland NJ during the early 70s

In the 90s someone set fire to the Chestnut Assembly Of God church and when the police arrived they discovered a pentagram on the basement floor and black candles. This incident was covered in the Vineland Daily Journal and can be found on the internet. It reflects the dark history of that church during the early 70s , but could merely be teenagers having some fun. I guess we'll never know.


In the late 90s a vampire cult was arrested and convicted for the molestation of a young boy in North Vineland. The cult leader was a man well into his 60s who wore a cape in court. He was taken to a mental hospital. Several of the cult members were advised for psychiatric evaluation. 😃 😲

The on going interest to form these cults in Vineland was possibly fueled by the past. These groups revolved around individuals that desired power or control. What occurred in 1971 involving a much larger organized group inspired to follow a dark path no doubt.

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Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

back in the day in Hollywood sunset strip......https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-creepiest-cult-leader-you-probably-didnt-know-tony-alamo-862ed00bd8f7



I never heard about it, but found a short documentary on him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn3eZV2oxhQ
Southern California back in the day had many shady groups prowling the area.
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Trane, we all know you vied to be an extra in Battlefield EarthLOL
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Btw, does anyone know of someone who was in a modern "creepy" cult?

i seem to think i do but i cannot recall any specific person
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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

Originally posted by darksinger darksinger wrote:

it is not mere "not taking criticism": when we do not choose people you want as our leaders, Europe depicts us as drowning Nazis in natural disasters, holds parliamentary sessions to insult us and try to figure out what to do with us, people write about how to remove the person you do not like-why are we allies with people who think we are dumb af? 

It's a little easier for the rest of the world to see the US as "dumb af" when they look at who the US has elected as their president these last 50 years.

America, the great experiment, a shining beacon of demoracy and the example for the rest of the world to follow, is getting it wrong.

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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

Originally posted by darksinger darksinger wrote:

it is not mere "not taking criticism": when we do not choose people you want as our leaders, Europe depicts us as drowning Nazis in natural disasters, holds parliamentary sessions to insult us and try to figure out what to do with us, people write about how to remove the person you do not like-why are we allies with people who think we are dumb af? 

It's a little easier for the rest of the world to see the US as "dumb af" when they look at who the US has elected as their president these last 50 years.

America, the great experiment, a shining beacon of demoracy and the example for the rest of the world to follow, is getting it wrong.



Could DS (please) elaborate which european country "holds parliamentary sessions to insult us", because I'm not aware - and certainly doesn't concern the EU parliament itself.
Yeah, sure, most of the countries had a problem with the trade wars Trump started, which coincided with the Brexit's custom taxes installations.  And indeed, the global warming denial of the former adminstration certainly did not help, but the new one has straightened that out - remains to be seen whether they will d anything about it, though.
Most parliaments of our countries seems "sold to the US" from the street's perspective. 
And the street's opinion doesn't reflect the silent majority (despite what the former claims) and I'm not sure the press is really independant in reflecting the silent ones.
FTM, for some european intellectuals (usually leftists), it's still quite irritating that the majority (silent or not) are simply "aping" (read blindly foloowing) whatever goes on the the USA.

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Generally the cricism regarding US Presidents is aimed at the Republicans (Dubya &Trump), not the Democrats: Clinton & Obama were/are still quite popular here, but the general jury is still out for Biden.

But yeah, one can really wonder about all elected leaders in the Occident and the rising populism is worrysome (Conservatives in the UK, Orban in Hungary, the dude in Poland, the possibility of Le Pen in France, etc... ). Europeans should indeed sweep their doorstep before giving morality lessons to others.

And that "occidental phenomena" is global-wise, Bolsonaro in Brazil, the idiot in The Philippines, Erdogan in Turkey, etc...







The UK had an entire session bad mouthing a choice as president here. I think it is time we left the UN and NATO. y'all can handle your problems there
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Oh, Scientologists, they will so regret their wasted lives.   It's tragic.





Edited by Atavachron - April 18 2022 at 16:17
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Btw, does anyone know of someone who was in a modern "creepy" cult?


We were 17/18-ish and my buddy & I were walking down the Yonge Street strip (downtown Toronto) - hunting for records (something like 15 shops within two kms, plus a few used record shops on adjacent streets).

There is this all-dressed-up dude that proposed us to do this IQ test for free, but I smelled something fishy, but my buddy didn't. He went in and I felt I needed to keep an eye on him so I went in as well.

He took the test (something like two hours long) and I stood by him (refused to do the test) and didn't even take a sip of the drink available - I was on total alert.
They didn't want to give him the result that day (though they had promised at the entrance).
Something I'd never done before (or since) but I told my buddy's father about this - I still had no real idea of what, though.

Three days later the IQ test results were in and brought by two dudes in suits at my buddy's house (we were playing pool in his garage with the door opened) - middle of summer and parents gone working/shopping.
I knew his dad's work number and phoned him up from the living room (gone in "to get refreshments"), and within 30 mins, he was home throwing out of the house the two scientologists (who hadn't unveiled themselves as of yet).

Heavy tensions between me and my buddy for a couple of weeks, but he ended up thanking me.


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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

back in the day in Hollywood sunset strip......https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-creepiest-cult-leader-you-probably-didnt-know-tony-alamo-862ed00bd8f7



I never heard about it, but found a short documentary on him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn3eZV2oxhQ
https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition

https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List
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back in the day in Hollywood sunset strip......https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-creepiest-cult-leader-you-probably-didnt-know-tony-alamo-862ed00bd8f7

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Btw, does anyone know of someone who was in a modern "creepy" cult?
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Not trying to be THAT guy (and I rarely do this), but can you take it to the political thread? I thought this was supposed to be for creepy cults. Big smile
True, that's why I bailed out. Plus it's the same old blah, blah, blah.
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Not trying to be THAT guy (and I rarely do this), but can you take it to the political thread? I thought this was supposed to be for creepy cults. Big smile
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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

Originally posted by darksinger darksinger wrote:

it is not mere "not taking criticism": when we do not choose people you want as our leaders, Europe depicts us as drowning Nazis in natural disasters, holds parliamentary sessions to insult us and try to figure out what to do with us, people write about how to remove the person you do not like-why are we allies with people who think we are dumb af? 

It's a little easier for the rest of the world to see the US as "dumb af" when they look at who the US has elected as their president these last 50 years.

America, the great experiment, a shining beacon of demoracy and the example for the rest of the world to follow, is getting it wrong.



Could DS (please) elaborate which european country "holds parliamentary sessions to insult us", because I'm not aware - and certainly doesn't concern the EU parliament itself.
Yeah, sure, most of the countries had a problem with the trade wars Trump started, which coincided with the Brexit's custom taxes installations.  And indeed, the global warming denial of the former adminstration certainly did not help, but the new one has straightened that out - remains to be seen whether they will d anything about it, though.
Most parliaments of our countries seems "sold to the US" from the street's perspective. 
And the street's opinion doesn't reflect the silent majority (despite what the former claims) and I'm not sure the press is really independant in reflecting the silent ones.
FTM, for some european intellectuals (usually leftists), it's still quite irritating that the majority (silent or not) are simply "aping" (read blindly foloowing) whatever goes on the the USA.

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Generally the cricism regarding US Presidents is aimed at the Republicans (Dubya &Trump), not the Democrats: Clinton & Obama were/are still quite popular here, but the general jury is still out for Biden.

But yeah, one can really wonder about all elected leaders in the Occident and the rising populism is worrysome (Conservatives in the UK, Orban in Hungary, the dude in Poland, the possibility of Le Pen in France, etc... ). Europeans should indeed sweep their doorstep before giving morality lessons to others.

And that "occidental phenomena" is global-wise, Bolsonaro in Brazil, the idiot in The Philippines, Erdogan in Turkey, etc...








Edited by Sean Trane - April 18 2022 at 04:05
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Originally posted by darksinger darksinger wrote:

it is not mere "not taking criticism": when we do not choose people you want as our leaders, Europe depicts us as drowning Nazis in natural disasters, holds parliamentary sessions to insult us and try to figure out what to do with us, people write about how to remove the person you do not like-why are we allies with people who think we are dumb af? 

It's a little easier for the rest of the world to see the US as "dumb af" when they look at who the US has elected as their president these last 50 years.

America, the great experiment, a shining beacon of demoracy and the example for the rest of the world to follow, is getting it wrong.

"They're sellin' independence,
Actors in the White House."

Ramble Tamble
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I should have been a pair of ragged claws
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by darksinger darksinger wrote:

Not to get political, but flagrant bashes on the US is a huge reason I think it is time the US left NATO and the UN. We should not be involved with what is going on over there. When we are involved, it is viewed as an annoyance. We just ended (badly) a 20 year war. Why are we involved in one that has nothing to do with us. Europe can handle this!


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I'd hate to think of this planet's state without USA's involvment in both UN and NATO. Overall, the USA's role has been positiveHug, but one should accept criticism.

Seriously, The USA is a key member and rightly so, especially in the depth of the cold War - even if the cold war was +/- started by them (the Truman Crusade) and its hate of communism (look at Hoover & McCarthy's purges during the 50/60's). Of course the creation of NATO was vital to keep peace in the northern hemisphere for +/- 80 years and in 95% of the cases, troubles were happening in the "southern" hemisphere (read: whatever is south of Caucasian - white race - countries) is not to be imputed to NATO at all. Until the Yougoslavien disater (though Nato had nothing to do with that either, u ntil the UN sent them in) and now this present crisis.

But by some of NATO's members (those with "empires on whose the sun sun never sets" and the wish to keep it), like France, UK, Portugal, Netherlands, (Belgium to a lesser extent, since its empire was in the same time zone :-) ) and the US (whose empire was basically The Philippines, but considered Latin America to be its backyard).

The trouble is that those amed forces that are supposed to be keeping the peace (like NATO) are being courted constantly by weapons manufacturers - who want to increase their sales and find new markets (Ukraine or Georgia, for ex). This is valid for all coutries that have weapons industries (Belgium as well - and not just FN guns sold to "iffy states", like Saudi Arabia and the invasion of Yemen) and sometimes undermining their allies (the recent Australian submarine crisis).



Just out of curiosity, I checked which US president since WW2 ended did not throw its armed forces into a conflict during its mandate(s) and came up with just two of them: Carter (76/80), and perhaps much more surprisingly: Trump.... and Biden (so far). Of course some of them inherited the situation from the predecessors (Biden from Dubya, for ex).
All of the others have blood on their hands, whether I like it (and them) or not. Even Bill and Obama did.

I'll handle the internal NATO aspects elsewhere (or another time), but indeed, most of the European lands are fully aware that it relied too heavily on the USA's efforts without pulling their weight in the process.

Anyways, I'd hate the USA to go back to its isolationism of Pre WW1&2.

life without Duke, Trane Elvis, his Bobness and a few others woudn't be the same.Heart

it is not mere "not taking criticism": when we do not choose people you want as our leaders, Europe depicts us as drowning Nazis in natural disasters, holds parliamentary sessions to insult us and try to figure out what to do with us, people write about how to remove the person you do not like-why are we allies with people who think we are dumb af? fight your own wars. fund yourselves. I would love to see a move back to isolationism.
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