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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:


Btw: Recordings with Wagner??


That would be world news! But highly unlikely. Although experimentation with sound recordings began in the1850s, as far as I know the first recordings of music that we know of are from 1888 (The Lost Chord played by unknown musicians) and 1889: Brahms playing his Hungarian Dance on piano (see here). So, that would be a couple of years after Wagner's death...


I think he might have confused him with Richard Wagner's son Siegfried. He did some composing himself, and he is very likely to have recorded some of his father's work too - as part of the Bayreuther Festspiel.
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I know Mahler conducted himself, but there are apparently no recordings of this.


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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:


Btw: Recordings with Wagner??


That would be world news! But highly unlikely. Although experimentation with sound recordings began in the1850s, as far as I know the first recordings of music that we know of are from 1888 (The Lost Chord played by unknown musicians) and 1889: Brahms playing his Hungarian Dance on piano (see here). So, that would be a couple of years after Wagner's death...

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Ian Anderson never conducted a symphony, but he didn't need to. Tull keyboardist David (Dee) Palmer, a classically trained musician from the Royal Academy of Music (and appointed as a Fellow of the Academy in the 90s), did all the many orchestral arrangements for Tull from Stand Up onward. 

Here is Palmer's superb adaptation of "War Child" with the London Symphony Orchestra:
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Italian maestro Ennio Morricone is well-known for conducting his own cinematic music. Heart

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Benjamin Britten and Malcolm Arnold conducted recordings of their own music too.

But it is not always an advantage. Carl Nielsen f.e was a great composer, but a bad conductor. I don't know if any recordings exist though.

Btw: Recordings with Wagner??

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Stravinsky! 

In rock music, the only example I can think of is Frank Zappa, who used to get upset when some folks were not listening to the music and only wanted a guitar solo. He would put down the guitar and take up the baton ... and I think he was wielding that as well as any conductor probably could!



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I know of some 20th century/contemporary composers: Hanns Eisler (on the "Historic Recordings/Historische Aufnahmen" series), Pierre Boulez, Bruno Mantovani (D'un rêve parti).
I have several discs with Boulez conducting Boulez: Répons, Messagesquisse/Anthèmes 2, Le marteau sans maître and Dérive 1 & 2 (for an example see Dérive 2...).

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I have become interested, even fascinated, in the possibility of having recordings of Music Composers conducting their own music. Something taken for granted today, but it is incredible when you go back in time to see if it is true of previous eras of music.
               I kid you not, when I say I know of, and have heard, recordings of the following composers themselves conducting their own music-Richard Wagner, Richard Strauss, Sir William Walton, Wilhelm Furtwangler (yes, the famous conductor was also a composer), Sir Edward Elgar, Aaron Copeland, Alexandre Glazunov, Maurice Ravel, Sergei Prokofiev, Igor Stravinsky, Gustav Holst, Ferde Grofe.
              And what an experience it is, to hear the composer's own take on how their music should sound! 
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