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R these artists U consider 2 B "prog"?

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Poll Question: Before PA, which of these artists did you think of as "prog"?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
37 [9.30%]
8 [2.01%]
33 [8.29%]
35 [8.79%]
11 [2.76%]
4 [1.01%]
7 [1.76%]
11 [2.76%]
15 [3.77%]
11 [2.76%]
3 [0.75%]
4 [1.01%]
2 [0.50%]
19 [4.77%]
28 [7.04%]
49 [12.31%]
19 [4.77%]
12 [3.02%]
6 [1.51%]
22 [5.53%]
11 [2.76%]
11 [2.76%]
15 [3.77%]
1 [0.25%]
24 [6.03%]
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Albums like In A Silent Way, Enigmatic Ocean, One Size Fits All and Bright Size Life always sounded very progressive to me. It's harder to say about Davis, Ponty, Zappa and Metheny, they went through so many changes.
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^ My understanding is that tomatoes and zucchini contain seeds and are botanically considered fruits, but from a culinary standpoint are classified as vegetables. When I finish my lunch, I like to eat my apple last, and there is no way I’m finishing up by reaching for a tomato. Remember that the beverage is called V8 and not F8 for a reason. So, I imagine that “the Big Six are the only real Prog bands” folks would classify tomatoes as fruits, but I would let it slide as a vegetable.
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Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

You forgot Asia, Gary Numan, and the Allman Brothers.

I’m just being mischievous.

I remember when Devo was called one of the most progressive bands of its time. Was it rock? Yes. But was it progressive rock? I think Mark Mothersbaugh was probably annoyed that they didn’t get classified that way, but at the same time probably reveled in being outcast, too.

Dave Murray of Iron Maiden keeps saying that he wants to get back to the Progressive Rock style of Iron Maiden. What does he mean by that?

It really boils down to how you define Prog. I would say that a large percentage of people who listen to Prog Rock proper also listen to the artists on this list. There is a connection, but I don’t immediately associate many of the folks on this list first and foremost with Prog rock.

Jimi Hendrix took blues to another level. Iron Maiden used interesting scales, harmonies, and historical themes. Queen incorporated rock opera sounds. Each of these artists did something sophisticated and interesting that elevated their genre to a new plane. But, is it Prog? It is heading in that direction. It’s on the fringe. Are Saturn’s rings part of Saturn? Is Ceres a planet? Is a tennis ball that hits the top of the net, wobbles at the top, and then flops itself over considered a valid shot? Is a red panda a real panda? Does a lentil belong with beans and/or peas? As Ozzie once belted out … “Don’t ask me … I don’t know!” Maybe they are close to the edge of Prog.



... don' t forget the tomatoes ... fruits of vegetables ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2022 at 17:09
Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

You forgot Asia, Gary Numan, and the Allman Brothers.

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You forgot Asia, Gary Numan, and the Allman Brothers.

I’m just being mischievous.

I remember when Devo was called one of the most progressive bands of its time. Was it rock? Yes. But was it progressive rock? I think Mark Mothersbaugh was probably annoyed that they didn’t get classified that way, but at the same time probably reveled in being outcast, too.

Dave Murray of Iron Maiden keeps saying that he wants to get back to the Progressive Rock style of Iron Maiden. What does he mean by that?

It really boils down to how you define Prog. I would say that a large percentage of people who listen to Prog Rock proper also listen to the artists on this list. There is a connection, but I don’t immediately associate many of the folks on this list first and foremost with Prog rock.

Jimi Hendrix took blues to another level. Iron Maiden used interesting scales, harmonies, and historical themes. Queen incorporated rock opera sounds. Each of these artists did something sophisticated and interesting that elevated their genre to a new plane. But, is it Prog? It is heading in that direction. It’s on the fringe. Are Saturn’s rings part of Saturn? Is Ceres a planet? Is a tennis ball that hits the top of the net, wobbles at the top, and then flops itself over considered a valid shot? Is a red panda a real panda? Does a lentil belong with beans and/or peas? As Ozzie once belted out … “Don’t ask me … I don’t know!” Maybe they are close to the edge of Prog.
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Given the way the title of the thread was written, I half expected Prince 2 B on this list.

He was. I decided at the last minute to switch him out for Queen.Wink

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Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

I'd add Procol Harum

They are kind of on the fence for me. Maybe proto prog. Frank Zappa said "no" about them being prog so I'll agree with him there. Start at 6:50. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eln3J6BxWN0&t=610s I do disagree with him saying Traffic weren't progressive rock though but they aren't on this poll anyway (otherwise I would have mentioned them too). 


Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - October 01 2022 at 14:00
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I'd add Procol Harum
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

The Moody Blues and Frank Zappa and that's about it. The others often appeal to prog fans but are either hard rock, heavy metal or fusion. 


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The Moody Blues and Frank Zappa and that's about it. The others often appeal to prog fans but are either hard rock, heavy metal or fusion. 
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Out of the ones on the list: Queen, Death, (early) Journey, Queensryche, (early) Metallica, and a few others. 

One other band I'd like to mention is Steely Dan; I know they're already included on the site as a jazz fusion/rock band, but I think people underestimate how progressive and forward-thinking albums like Aja, Countdown to Ecstasy, and Royal Scam really are. Out of all the bands that actually retained commercial pop hooks, they're easily one of the most complex out there


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Earl of Mar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2021 at 17:00
Bits of many of them. I thought on hearing Nostradamus by Al Stewart he was prog and that track still is imo. Still a great musician though.
Led Zep in 69/ 70 were very prog to most people. Anything outside the norm was Progressive. I still think a lot of their music was progressive for it's time. Time being the thing here.
Hendrix who I'm not a fan of was undoubtedly a progressive musician in 67/8. In the same way Procol Harum and the Moodies were making progressive music.

Most of these musicians have made progressive music in their time, I leave it to the individual to make their own minds up.

Think I'll play Nostradamus now I've thought of it.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2021 at 15:50
Kate Bush, Procol Harum and Frank Zappa. Many of the others, as far as I knew them, I considered more or less proggish.
I remember from the 1980s that Miles Davis was highly appreciated in prog circles.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote projeKct Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2021 at 13:08
I voted only for:
- Frank Zappa
- Jean-Luc Ponty
- David Sylvian

But then, what do I know?
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All of them except Journey, because those artist breack stilistic barriers and expand the compositional structure
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^Prince was certainly as prog as many of these, and more prog than some of them. I wouldn’t have been surprised at all if I’d come to PA, and found him here.

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^If Black Sabbath, and Miles Davis are prog, as many voted yes, why not Prince?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BrufordFreak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2021 at 10:12
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Given the way the title of the thread was written, I half expected Prince 2 B on this list.

AWESOME! 

Would you have voted Prince as "prog"?


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