UEFA Euro 2020 Football Championship

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:   ... No way Southgate is replaced unless he retires due to burn out. Only Ramsey has a better tournament record and only Capella a better win percentage. You can only beat the teams in front of you in the stadiums scheduled. England are generally overrated. I'm very happy with the job he's done and there's no candidate who is good enough who would want the job or take the pay cut.

ExittheLemming wrote: There ain't too many managers with World Cup semi-finalist and Euros finalist on their resumes but given their opponents at the WC 2018 included Panama, Tunisia and Sweden and they had 6 of their 7 games at Wembley plus the easier half of the draw for Euro 2020 and still couldn't get the job done: Is Gareth Southgate the right man to lead England towards the World Cup 2022? For me he's too risk averse and passive to coach a winning side at the very highest level despite the undoubted talent pool he has at his disposal. (I also think Roberto Martinez's Belgium under achieve but for opposite reasons i.e. they are too open and neglect collective defensive duties) Trouble is, there aren't too many obvious contenders for the role out there. Dean Smith has been brilliant at Aston Villa while Steven Gerrard has revolutionized Rangers in Scotland but needs to take a similar step up to the EPL that Brendan Rodgers took via Celtic before he's even in that conversation. Thoughts?

No way Southgate is replaced unless he retires due to burn out. Only Ramsey has a better tournament record and only Capella a better win percentage. You can only beat the teams in front of you in the stadiums scheduled. England are generally overrated. I'm very happy with the job he's done and there's no candidate who is good enough who would want the job or take the pay cut.

^ Moshkito. I, as an atheist, use phrases like "rest in peace", "God knows" etc. too. You are the one, and a clinically obsessive one, who is taking such things AND yourself too seriously. I can say "black actor", whenever I see fit. You can state your stance and/or viewpoint and ctiricise me. BUT, do it once. Get over your obsessions.

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There ain't too many managers with World Cup semi-finalist and Euros finalist on their resumes but given their opponents at the WC 2018 included Panama, Tunisia and Sweden and they had 6 of their 7 games at Wembley plus the easier half of the draw for Euro 2020 and still couldn't get the job done: Is Gareth Southgate the right man to lead England towards the World Cup 2022? For me he's too risk averse and passive to coach a winning side at the very highest level despite the undoubted talent pool he has at his disposal. (I also think Roberto Martinez's Belgium under achieve but for opposite reasons i.e. they are too open and neglect collective defensive duties) Trouble is, there aren't too many obvious contenders for the role out there. Dean Smith has been brilliant at Aston Villa while Steven Gerrard has revolutionized Rangers in Scotland but needs to take a similar step up to the EPL that Brendan Rodgers took via Celtic before he's even in that conversation. Thoughts?

chopper wrote: Progishness wrote: BaldJean wrote: England just can't win at penalty shootouts. interestingly all black English players who partook in the shootout failed I am disgusted and disappointed that you could make such an insensitive and crass remark. Pretty sure Jean didn't mean it in the way you think, but I can see why it might be misconstrued and I'm not really sure what point she was trying to make.

BaldJean wrote: England just can't win at penalty shootouts. interestingly all black English players who partook in the shootout failed

I hate penalties because (1) it's a different way of sorting out the winner than the actual game (2) we're crap at them.

chopper wrote: Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: Penalty shootout's suck ass but there hasn't been a better alternative decided yet. Personally I'd like trials of taking two players off from each team every 10 minutes in extra time and play sudden death. With a wide open field and tired players you'd get more goal scoring chances. The problem with the previous golden goal was the risk reward favored defense too much. Hmm, I can see a problem with an indeterminate end time there. It could go on for hours! Which 2 players do you take off?

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: chopper wrote: I have to say though I always get get nervous when players try to be clever and do a stuttering run-up. To my you should just give it some welly to one corner or the other so the goalie can't stop it even if he goes the right way Agree, if you put it in the side netting or top corner there is no way the keeper gets to it, any professional player should be able to hit that target more than 80% of the time. Anything too cute or too close to the middle of the goal gives the keeper too much of a chance. Lewian wrote: I have to say I think penalty shootouts are a good way to decide a game like this. What are the alternatives? Some people say it's down to luck but in fact shooting and stopping the ball are central football skills, and psychology and character are also important. There were some interesting penalties in this tournament by the way, and only about 50% success (both in the shootouts and in the regular games). Penalty shootout's suck ass but there hasn't been a better alternative decided yet. Personally I'd like trials of taking two players off from each team every 10 minutes in extra time and play sudden death. With a wide open field and tired players you'd get more goal scoring chances. The problem with the previous golden goal was the risk reward favored defense too much.