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Cambus741
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it's brilliant
Floyd's greatest album. Its excellent from start to finish
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jude111
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I was really into Floyd when it came out, and I was initially quite disappointed. But I did grow to love it after a few years. I understand it's not most people's cup of tea. Curiously, when Marillion's Brave came out, I heard it as a continuation of that sound, so it would seem to have a bit of an influence.
On the other hand, I never got the love for Amused to Death, while I thought Is This the Life We Really Want to be the best Floyd-related album since The Wall. I guess on all these counts I'm in the minority.
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jlneudorf
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I love The Final Cut and I think it sits perfectly beside The Wall, both musically and thematically. Sure some of it is a bit depressing and given the subject matter I wouldn't expect it not to be. Some great tracks including one on my all time faves Two Suns in the Sunset.
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"When the Tigers Broke Free" was part of The Wall session and was part of the movie. It ended up on The Final Cut, but contextually it makes for more sense in the movie than on that later album.
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Hi, Some of the stuff that was in that album was actually a part of the original WALL which had about 15 minutes taken out ... presumably to make sure that all of it could fit into 2 albums! If you take the story material from that album, you will find that they fit into the story of the original ... and Roger never really explained that, and I do not think he will ... he knows that the story got screwed up, but he's not going to say that the record company told them they had to make sure it fit 2 albums! There is just too much ... hidden that we can not see!
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^ Yeah, I think that was one of Gilmour's complaints about the album. He thought that if the songs weren't enough to be on The Wall, then why should be good enough for the new album. However, as far as I'm concerned, there are a few songs that would have been a great addition on The Wall album.
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Hi,
I DON'T! (even think about it ... ) After spending money on the album and sitting down and hearing it, I realized it was a mistake ... it should have never been considered a PF album ... and even though a song or two were played in a few stations, in some ways ... I didn't like THE WALL Part 69 that was not included in the original, and one or two more songs added to make it like it was the band. It wasn't!
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The real acid test of it would be: play it to someone without telling them it's Pink Floyd and see what they really think of it! Personally I find it uninspired and boring.
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ProfPanglos
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I think it's a great album, I love it.
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It’s not a favourite of mine. But whenever i listen to it it’s a great album
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It is fantastic when you spin an album you haven’t listened to in years, and wonder beforehand whether it is still what it was then, and as enjoyable, and you discover that it is, and, even more, get new stuff out of it.
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This thread prompted me to listen to this album for the first time in about 30 years. Back then, I listened to a lot of Floyd, including TFC. CD's came out and I had the entire PF studio catalogue replaced as priority along with Yes. There were times when I would listen to TFC quite a lot.
I liked it a lot then and, at the time, I didn't really care much that it was less of a true PF album then the others. I liked the tunes. I liked the somber atmosphere. I like how it made me feel. So, here I am, listening to it, The Gunner's Dream is on, wondering if I might tear up right when Roger sings. "and as the teardrops rise to meet the comfort of the band". Sax solo. Wow. Old friend. Let's not go another 30 years.
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I wish he would release an album from that tour... I believe he has sound recordings from several or all shows, but no video. Still, it would be better than nothing. As for Pros, I find it nice, but nothing I really love... I prefer even The Final Cut over it, and among Roger's solo efforts, for me it is Amused to Death the best one... still, in most of his albums, I can only imagine what we might have gotten if Pink Floyd had been with him to give him some input (specially with Amused to Death itself, and his latest one). |
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I think it is daring and somewhat underrated. Not a bad album for me, but not excellent either.
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Yeah, that was likely from the The Pros and Cons of Hitchiking tour in 1984. I saw that tour and thought the show was amazing. It did not, however, get good reviews and the arena wasn't even full. Honestly, it felt like a past-his-prime artist trying to hold onto past glory...but I loved it.
Mostly because I loved Pros and Cons and still do. I rank it higher than any PF album other than the DSOTM / WYWH / Animals / Wall group. Edited by MrMan2000 - April 14 2021 at 01:28 |
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^ For me, I guess it does sound very Waters like Floyd, but it really misses the classic Floyd sound, just because of the lack of Wright... and the shorter songs. There are some songs that I do love on this album, though (The Heroe's Return... though the whole both parts together that was released as a single, The Fletcher Memorial Home, and the title songs are my very favourite here). About The Gunner's Dream, I found it good, but not really among my favourites... though I remember hearing a bootleg a long time ago (with too bad of a sound quality, unfortunatley), from Waters solo tour with Clapton on guitars, and it had a really great version of this song (as well as perhaps my favourite version of Nobody Home).
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I've always been a bigger fan than most. But I was a teen and a huge PF fan so I devoured it from the minute it came out. Yeah, the lyrical topics are repetitive after we just had Roger ruminating on losing his dad to the war through much of The Wall.
But I like the music. At this point, Waters had perfected the sonic dynamics that exemplified Floyd in that era. Effortlessly switching from loud to soft. Also, it contains one of the absolute gems (hidden or not) within the Floyd catalog: The Gunner's Dream. Not saying it's the best song in their library, but there isn't one better IMO. I even did a video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVhN841G4PE&t=2s&ab_channel=TheRock%26RollSoapBox I understand why many don't like it. It's depressing. It's dated. It's closer to a Waters solo album than a true PF album. But it's vastly superior to either of the three post-Waters PF efforts and better than anything that came out before DSOTM (Meddle and AHM about the same as TFC). |
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I was told it was lousy, so being somewhat of a contrarian I had to check it out. I picked it up at a HalfPrice Books for dirt cheap.
I would agree that it is dark and somber. There’s nothing overtly bad about it, but the songs were not very memorable to me at first listen. I enjoy a good hook or riff or chord progression, which I’d come to expect from Pink Floyd. Sometimes I want to hear something moody so maybe this will grow on me in time. For now ... I’m gonna run ... run .. run ... run ... |
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For me this was a great follow up album to the Wall, although obviously, an entirely Waters project in regard to composition, lyrics, musical direction. I loved the somber tone, the look back to war time/post war, and war in general. It touches on love, loss, war, betrayal; it is bitter, political, and morbidly optimistic. For those reasons alone, i give it 4 stars.
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